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re: Boris Yeltsin Transcript ...spoke to US Congress 1992
Posted on 12/26/22 at 7:57 am to ApexTiger
Posted on 12/26/22 at 7:57 am to ApexTiger
1. Equating Putin’s Russia to Yeltsin’s Russia is disingenuous.
2. We did not treat 1990s Russia as an “enemy.” We made the mistake of treating them like a third-world backwater, which hurt their pride … and GAVE us Putin.
3. If we had treated them as a respected international partner, Putin would never have risen to power. WE put Russia back into the “enemy” column when WE created Putin.
4. Yeltsin’s Russia could have been a valuable friend and ally. Putin’s Russia cannot ever be anything but a rival.
2. We did not treat 1990s Russia as an “enemy.” We made the mistake of treating them like a third-world backwater, which hurt their pride … and GAVE us Putin.
3. If we had treated them as a respected international partner, Putin would never have risen to power. WE put Russia back into the “enemy” column when WE created Putin.
4. Yeltsin’s Russia could have been a valuable friend and ally. Putin’s Russia cannot ever be anything but a rival.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 8:16 am
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 7:59 am to AggieHank86
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1. Equating Putin’s Russia to Yeltsin’s Russia is disingenuous.
So is pretending this war is not a US proxy war.
In fact, its dangerous.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 8:35 am to AggieHank86
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Putin’s Russia cannot ever be anything but a rival.
and you say this because?
we have literally not held the 1992 treated maintaining a barrier states...from Nato nations
Putin has spoken about this issue numerous times
Ukraine was a red line...
no one respected him enough to listen
and now we're in a cluster frick we have no business being in, but the United States created much of it...
so now we're funding a war we're not in
only globalist fricktards in the GOP would allow this
Posted on 12/26/22 at 8:54 am to AggieHank86
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3. If we had treated them as a respected international partner, Putin would never have risen to power. WE put Russia back into the “enemy” column when WE created Putin.
Iirc Putin didn't really "rise" to power, the way most would think. Yeltsin hand picked Putin, who was a pretty low level govt guy, to replace him.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 8:57 am to AggieHank86
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..... when WE created Putin.
......nwhen the WEF created Putin and we allowed NATO to continue to expand.
FIFY
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:45 am to AggieHank86
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2. We did not treat 1990s Russia as an “enemy.” We made the mistake of treating them like a third-world backwater, which hurt their pride … and GAVE us Putin.
3. If we had treated them as a respected international partner, Putin would never have risen to power. WE put Russia back into the “enemy” column when WE created Putin.
more absolute crap - hope that doesn't hurt your delicate feelings
we didn't **accidentally treat Russia badly***, like dropping a pan of cornbread in the floor, we began intentionally provoking the hell out of Russia in 1996
Clinton started it, Bush expanded it, Obama expanded it, Trump did nothing to help it, and Weekend at Bidens is trying to cause a nuclear war
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:47 am to AggieHank86
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Putin’s Russia cannot ever be anything but a rival.
And why is this so?
Another question: Can China, in your opinion, ever be considered anything other than a rival?
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:08 pm to AggieHank86
quote:That's a bit disingenuous.
If we had treated them as a respected international partner, Putin would never have risen to power.
Putin becoming president had everything to do with his control of the intelligence apparatus, and thusly the propaganda apparatus.
Yeltsin's hesitance about opening up the media markets to outside influence was a far more significant "enabling" move ensuring Putin's rise to power. . .since there was no countervailing balance to KGB/FSB propaganda.
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