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2023 Formula 1 season Thread
Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:17 pm
The first livery reveal is days away so let's get a new season kicked off. Last season was a lot of fun, better racing than before I think. A pretty close constructors championship for much of the season. I don't think F1 is ready to declare victory yet over the new aero changes but they seem to be a step in the right direction at least. A lot of driver (and team lead) changes this year. Not much in the way of technical changes. A few rookies are coming in. We'll probably miss Danny Ric but it's nice to see Hulk back. So anyway I'm looking forward to some racing!
The Grid
No changes at the top this year but nearly every other team replaced a driver. Red Bull, Ferrari and Mercedes all remain the same, as does Alfa Romeo. Last year Sebastien Vettel announced his retirement, which started some dominoes falling. Fernando Alonso will take Seb's place at Aston Martin and Pierre Gasly then moved from AlphaTauri to take Alonso's spot at Alpine. {It'll be interesting to see how this dynamic plays out.} Haas replaced Mick Schumaker with Nico Hulkenberg, who has been a reserve driver and was out of the sport altogether for a while. AlphaTauri brought in Nyck De Vries to replace Gasly. McLaren brought in Oscar Piastri to take Daniel Riccardo's seat, who never seemed to like that car. If you had Logan Sargeant as the next American F1 Driver, congratulations! He comes into Williams to replace Nicolas Latifi.
There was sort of a 2nd silly season this year as team pricipals moved around. The big news is that Binotto was sacked at Ferrari after a series of bad strategy calls last season, coupled with reliability problems. Fred Vasseur returns to the Prancing Horse to replace him. {I'm pretty excited to see how this works out.} Alfa replaced Vasseur with Andreas Seidl formerly of McLaren. Then Andrea Stella was hired as the new Team Principal at McLaren. {I know I'm forgetting at least one other move.}
Here's the Lineup
Red Bull Racing - Max Verstappen, Sergio Perez
Scuderia Ferrari - Charles Leclerc, Carlos Sainz
Mercedes/AMG - George Russell, Lewis Hamilton
Alpine - Esteban Ocon, Pierre Gasly
McLaren - Oscar Piastri, Lando Norris
Alfa Romeo - Valteri Bottas, Zhou Guanyu
Aston Martin - Lance Stroll, Fernando Alonso
Haas - Kevin Magnussen, Nico Hulkenberg
AlphaTauri - Nyck De Vries, Yuki Tsunoda
Williams - Alexander Albon, Logan Sargeant
Rules Changes
As opposed to last year there aren't many changes to the car this year as far as I know. There are some changes designed to improve (hopefully eliminate) the bouncing and porpoising problem that plagued several teams last season. There are structural changes to prevent the roll hoop from shearing off the way Zhou's did in Silverstone last year. Other than that I think they'll be driving pretty much the same car from the standpoint of the technical regs.
Launch Dates {to be filled in w/ links as reveals happen}
Haas: Livery reveal More photos
Red Bull: first look car launch
Williams: car launch more photos analysis
Alfa Romeo: first look more photos major change
AlphaTauri: February 11
Aston Martin: February 13
McLaren: February 13
Ferrari: February 14
Mercedes: February 15
Alpine: February 16
Calendar
Only 3 days of testing is allowed this year. This fits with F1's overall theme of giving the teams less time to gather data, creating more guesswork and opportunities to be wrong and just generally making it harder for them. The hope is to mix up the field because some will get it right and some will get it wrong.
The racing calendar includes 23 races again with 3 US races I think for the first time ever. Races in Miami and Las Vegas were added in addition to COTA. To make room, the China GP was booted off the schedule. They've had to cancel it for 3 years running now so probably no great loss. The other loser was the French GP. So we gave up two road tracks for a couple of city street tracks but at least they were pretty crappy road circuits.
Preseason Testing
Thursday, February 23 – Day 1 – Bahrain International Circuit
Friday, February 24 – Day 2 – Bahrain International Circuit
Saturday, February 25 – Day 3 – Bahrain International Circuit
Racing Schedule
March 3-5: Bahrain Grand Prix, Sakhir
March 17-19: Saudi Arabian Grand Prix, Jeddah
March 31-April 2: Australian Grand Prix, Melbourne
April 28-30: Azerbaijan Grand Prix, Baku
May 5-7: Miami Grand Prix, Florida
May 19-21: Emilia Romagna Grand Prix, Imola
May 26-28: Monaco Grand Prix, Monaco
June 2-4: Spanish Grand Prix, Barcelona
June 16-18: Canadian Grand Prix, Montréal
June 30-July 2: Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg
July 7-9: British Grand Prix, Silverstone
July 21-23: Hungarian Grand Prix, Mogyoród
July 28-30: Belgian Grand Prix, Spa-Francorchamps
August 25-27: Dutch Grand Prix, Zandvoort
September 1-3: Italian Grand Prix, Monza
September 15-17: Singapore Grand Prix, Marina Bay
September 22-24: Japanese Grand Prix, Suzuka
October 6-8: Qatar Grand Prix, Lusail
October 20-22: United States Grand Prix, Austin
October 27-29: Mexico City Grand Prix, Mexico City
November 3-5: Sao Paulo Grand Prix, Interlagos
November 16-18: Las Vegas Grand Prix, Las Vegas
November 24-26: Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, Abu Dhabi
The Grid
No changes at the top this year but nearly every other team replaced a driver. Red Bull, Ferrari and Mercedes all remain the same, as does Alfa Romeo. Last year Sebastien Vettel announced his retirement, which started some dominoes falling. Fernando Alonso will take Seb's place at Aston Martin and Pierre Gasly then moved from AlphaTauri to take Alonso's spot at Alpine. {It'll be interesting to see how this dynamic plays out.} Haas replaced Mick Schumaker with Nico Hulkenberg, who has been a reserve driver and was out of the sport altogether for a while. AlphaTauri brought in Nyck De Vries to replace Gasly. McLaren brought in Oscar Piastri to take Daniel Riccardo's seat, who never seemed to like that car. If you had Logan Sargeant as the next American F1 Driver, congratulations! He comes into Williams to replace Nicolas Latifi.
There was sort of a 2nd silly season this year as team pricipals moved around. The big news is that Binotto was sacked at Ferrari after a series of bad strategy calls last season, coupled with reliability problems. Fred Vasseur returns to the Prancing Horse to replace him. {I'm pretty excited to see how this works out.} Alfa replaced Vasseur with Andreas Seidl formerly of McLaren. Then Andrea Stella was hired as the new Team Principal at McLaren. {I know I'm forgetting at least one other move.}
Here's the Lineup
Red Bull Racing - Max Verstappen, Sergio Perez
Scuderia Ferrari - Charles Leclerc, Carlos Sainz
Mercedes/AMG - George Russell, Lewis Hamilton
Alpine - Esteban Ocon, Pierre Gasly
McLaren - Oscar Piastri, Lando Norris
Alfa Romeo - Valteri Bottas, Zhou Guanyu
Aston Martin - Lance Stroll, Fernando Alonso
Haas - Kevin Magnussen, Nico Hulkenberg
AlphaTauri - Nyck De Vries, Yuki Tsunoda
Williams - Alexander Albon, Logan Sargeant
Rules Changes
As opposed to last year there aren't many changes to the car this year as far as I know. There are some changes designed to improve (hopefully eliminate) the bouncing and porpoising problem that plagued several teams last season. There are structural changes to prevent the roll hoop from shearing off the way Zhou's did in Silverstone last year. Other than that I think they'll be driving pretty much the same car from the standpoint of the technical regs.
Launch Dates {to be filled in w/ links as reveals happen}
Haas: Livery reveal More photos
Red Bull: first look car launch
Williams: car launch more photos analysis
Alfa Romeo: first look more photos major change
AlphaTauri: February 11
Aston Martin: February 13
McLaren: February 13
Ferrari: February 14
Mercedes: February 15
Alpine: February 16
Calendar
Only 3 days of testing is allowed this year. This fits with F1's overall theme of giving the teams less time to gather data, creating more guesswork and opportunities to be wrong and just generally making it harder for them. The hope is to mix up the field because some will get it right and some will get it wrong.
The racing calendar includes 23 races again with 3 US races I think for the first time ever. Races in Miami and Las Vegas were added in addition to COTA. To make room, the China GP was booted off the schedule. They've had to cancel it for 3 years running now so probably no great loss. The other loser was the French GP. So we gave up two road tracks for a couple of city street tracks but at least they were pretty crappy road circuits.
Preseason Testing
Thursday, February 23 – Day 1 – Bahrain International Circuit
Friday, February 24 – Day 2 – Bahrain International Circuit
Saturday, February 25 – Day 3 – Bahrain International Circuit
Racing Schedule
March 3-5: Bahrain Grand Prix, Sakhir
March 17-19: Saudi Arabian Grand Prix, Jeddah
March 31-April 2: Australian Grand Prix, Melbourne
April 28-30: Azerbaijan Grand Prix, Baku
May 5-7: Miami Grand Prix, Florida
May 19-21: Emilia Romagna Grand Prix, Imola
May 26-28: Monaco Grand Prix, Monaco
June 2-4: Spanish Grand Prix, Barcelona
June 16-18: Canadian Grand Prix, Montréal
June 30-July 2: Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg
July 7-9: British Grand Prix, Silverstone
July 21-23: Hungarian Grand Prix, Mogyoród
July 28-30: Belgian Grand Prix, Spa-Francorchamps
August 25-27: Dutch Grand Prix, Zandvoort
September 1-3: Italian Grand Prix, Monza
September 15-17: Singapore Grand Prix, Marina Bay
September 22-24: Japanese Grand Prix, Suzuka
October 6-8: Qatar Grand Prix, Lusail
October 20-22: United States Grand Prix, Austin
October 27-29: Mexico City Grand Prix, Mexico City
November 3-5: Sao Paulo Grand Prix, Interlagos
November 16-18: Las Vegas Grand Prix, Las Vegas
November 24-26: Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, Abu Dhabi
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 8:40 am
Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:53 pm to MountainTiger
It's lights out and away we go!
I'm ready!!
I'm ready!!
Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:05 pm to MountainTiger
Will be interesting to see what happens this year. A lot of great storylines will play out this year. Can Ferrari get out of their own way(proably not), can Mercedes build on their late season surge from last year, can anyone stop Red Bull and Max from getting the 3-peat.
Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:31 pm to MountainTiger
IN. Ready to wake up on Sunday mornings with some racing
Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:47 am to MountainTiger
I hope Sargeant is able to preform well and pick up a couple points.
Did Austin a couple years ago, would love to make it to vegas this year but don’t think it’s gonna happen.
Hope Max and Charles stay competitive throughout.
Did Austin a couple years ago, would love to make it to vegas this year but don’t think it’s gonna happen.
Hope Max and Charles stay competitive throughout.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:02 am to MountainTiger
Thought we were doing "Pre Season" until reveals/testing were done and then kicking off the official in-season once race week kicked off
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:21 am to MountainTiger
IT’S THE BEST OF DAYS!!!!
2023 Red Bull Catering will be INTENSE!
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 11:24 am
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:33 pm to MountainTiger
quote:
Alpine - Esteban Ocon, Pierre Gasly
McLaren - Oscar Piastri, Lando Norris
AlphaTauri - Nyck De Vries, Yuki Tsunoda
I'm absolutely intrigued by these matchups. Gasly had a tough year last year and is now in a new car. I hope he will get up to speed quickly and provide some competition for Ocon. I have no idea how Piastri will do compared to Lando, but I fear de Vries will show up Yuki pretty quickly. This may be Yuki's last year in F1.
quote:
Haas - Kevin Magnussen, Nico Hulkenberg
Williams - Alexander Albon, Logan Sargeant
Is Hulk too old to come back? I would have rather seen another young gun in the seat. I don't really have an impression of Sargeant, but I expect Albon to be the clear leader.
I'm not expecting any surprises from the rest of the team matchups.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 3:19 pm to MountainTiger
Thanks for starting the thread!
Coincidentally, Drive to Survive Season 5 hits Netflix the next day!
Coincidentally, Drive to Survive Season 5 hits Netflix the next day!
Posted on 1/27/23 at 5:28 pm to MountainTiger
Many thanks for the thread, sir.
***
A couple of questions I've been wondering what the board thinks...
1.) Which driver, Ocon or Gasly, will win the qualifying head-to-head matchup at Alpine in 2023?
2.) Which rookie driver finishes with the most points in 2023?
Looking forward to a great, French GP-less Formula 1 season in 2023.
***
A couple of questions I've been wondering what the board thinks...
1.) Which driver, Ocon or Gasly, will win the qualifying head-to-head matchup at Alpine in 2023?
2.) Which rookie driver finishes with the most points in 2023?
Looking forward to a great, French GP-less Formula 1 season in 2023.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:11 pm to MountainTiger
I ordered a new Williams hat. It got lost in the mail. I'm assuming that's a preview of their 2023 season.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:16 am to MountainTiger
Anyone know of a reputable site to purchase tickets to the practice rounds and qualifying for the Monaco and Spanish Grand Prixs?
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 9:18 am
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:50 am to MountainTiger
Any recommendations on when is the best time to buy tickets for Austin?
Posted on 2/27/23 at 7:33 am to MountainTiger
Is the chicane going away at Catalunya? One can hope!
Catalunya chicane May be going bye bye.
Catalunya chicane May be going bye bye.
Posted on 3/4/23 at 8:45 am to MountainTiger
Okay, baby. Q1, day one, race one. Let's go! Max 3-peat? George outdrives Hamilton again? Ferrari redemption season? More Drive to Survive queers sift in with their internet PhD's?
Gonna be exciting.
Gonna be exciting.
Posted on 3/4/23 at 9:19 am to MountainTiger
What has happened to my McLaren?
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