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re: Counter list best 2000s players as I feel most these 50s-70s guys wouldn't be much today

Posted on 7/29/23 at 3:33 am to
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/29/23 at 3:33 am to
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Imo Canon couldn't go into the game today and rush for 1100+ yards against the Maason Smith/Harold Perkins type players when his opponents D lines were all white, 6'0 210 lbs.


Are you assuming he gets his 1950s training and they get their 2000’s training? It’s is why this narrative that guys from back then would be worse now. They would be getting the same training and nutritional advantages that these guys get.

They were far and away better than their contemporaries without that. Why would they not be with that advantage?
This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 3:35 am
Posted by Saunson69
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 7/29/23 at 3:41 am to
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Are you assuming he gets his 1950s training and they get their 2000’s training? It’s is why this narrative that guys from back then would be worse now. They would be getting the same training and nutritional advantages that these guys get.

They were far and away better than their contemporaries without that. Why would they not be with that advantage?


Because recruiting wasn't nearly the same then as today. Colleges selected those who showed up to tryouts which were maybe 50-200 white guys at the university, a mere fraction of true available talent in the US.

Today, with technology advances making any kid at any high school accessible and see their tape, ESPN recruiting, 247, on3, Scout, Rivals, are big platforms, teams spending collectively hundreds of millions, elite camps highlighting talent that may have gone unnoticed has completely changed the talent on the field.

If you don't believe this or downvote, then you're sub 90 IQ and don't recognize that the talent then was from the 80 white guys who showed up to tryouts compared to today it's from the millions of high schools kids who play football. Maybe late 70s, this picked up somewhat.

Even if they had the workout/meal plans then, the selection was just from the several white guys who showed up to tryouts. College football and NFL missed out on hundreds of hall of famers due to unadvanced technology/black players not as active or sought.
This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 3:51 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/29/23 at 6:04 am to
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Are you assuming he gets his 1950s training and they get their 2000’s training?

Even if Cannon got 1950’s training he would be a first round draft choice today. He was just as big, and just as fast, as Leonard Fournette. Billy Cannon was a monster.
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