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re: Tell me why I should be okay with the government shutting down.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:45 pm to Covingtontiger77
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:45 pm to Covingtontiger77
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so much that should be left to the private sector to handle.
I don’t want more or bigger government; but this is such an elementary line of thinking. No private company is going build a road to your house. It’s not profitable. Unless you want every road, highway, and bridge to be a toll road. And it will be run for profit, so you’d pay more in tolls than you would taxes. And private industry is fraught with all the things people on here hate. You want FTX buying and running the military? You want Microsoft to remain unchecked and take over Federal Courts and prosecuting criminals? You want Rupert Murdoch to control the Emergency Broadcast Service, then turn it over to his children rather than the best person for the job?
There’s more corruption, price gauging and cronyism in private companies than in government jobs. Government agencies are all audited. You can go look to see where every dollar goes. You can’t do that with a private company.
These thoughts are great message board fodder, but not realistic.
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Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:48 pm to Suntiger
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There’s more corruption, price gauging and cronyism in private companies than in government jobs. Government agencies are all audited. You can go look to see where every dollar goes. You can’t do that with a private company.
You have to be trolling
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:50 pm to notslim99
quote:I don’t fly private either.
Private needs us too, baw.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:51 pm to stuntman
Well, the argument was that the FAA was privatized in those countries, and your article clearly says air traffic control was privatized, not the FAA. So uh... thank for proving my argument?
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:55 pm to PhtevenWithaV
Yeah, that's my fault for saying the equivalent of the faa. Air traffic controllers is what I meant. Thanks for the correction.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:55 pm to notslim99
Find another job
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:57 pm to Suntiger
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. No private company is going build a road to your house.
HOAs are private organizations that build and maintain roads to peoples houses all the time.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:02 pm to notslim99
The sad thing is the flow of US taxpayer dollars will flow like water to Ukraine. Our Congress is stupid.
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:07 pm to White Bear
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I don’t fly commercial, so go on home.
Are you daff? Private and non-commerical aircraft use the federal air traffic system, too.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:08 pm to Suntiger
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These thoughts are great message board fodder, but not realistic.
One of the big problems with this place is that most of the participants sit around getting high on their own flatulence, posting all day on a message board while telling themselves how much they resemble the hero from Ayn Rand’s fiction. They’re not thinking about the disastrous implications of the things they support.
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:08 pm to notslim99
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So you’re cool if your son doesn’t get paid for months, then gets backpay that’s taxed to hell months later? If you are, then you’re a fricking a-hole.
No I’m not cool with it , but he’s not crying about it anyway. He deals with it like an adult. Just like when he was in a war zone earlier this year and big Army tricked his payroll up. He had a month of no pay and they failed to “flip on” his hazardous duty and imminent danger pay.
Meanwhile he soldiered on for 60 days in the desert doing his job without complaint.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:14 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Meanwhile he soldiered on for 60 days in the desert doing his job without complaint.
And I’ll soldier on with some complaint. It’s absolute horseshite that our Senators, Congressmen, and Ukrainian government pensions are going to get checks but not me, your son, and other employees that actually serve.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:15 pm to notslim99
Federal workers are generally under worked and over paid.
Cut 20% of the Fed workforce and make them compete for jobs and pay raises.
Cut 20% of the Fed workforce and make them compete for jobs and pay raises.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:16 pm to Ping Pong
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the federal government has no business controlling air traffic. #PrivatizeEverything
We run the safest, busiest, and most efficient airspace in the world, and it’s not even close. I’m not opposed to privatization, but the standard shouldn’t lower like the other systems elsewhere in the world.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:19 pm to notslim99
Reason #3,957,441 why free market is better than state run economic system.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:20 pm to LSU7096
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Federal workers are generally under worked and over paid. Cut 20% of the Fed workforce and make them compete for jobs and pay raises.
That’s ignorant. My city is a huge defense industry employer with a large contingent of government employees and contractors. They’re not “underworked and overpaid”. Many on the government side make less than their private counterparts, and work as many hours on the same projects. They do it for different reasons, job security, less travel, sense of service, etc.
This is the sort “high on their own flatulence” comment that overpopulates this board.
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:22 pm to PhtevenWithaV
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HOAs are private organizations that build and maintain roads to peoples houses all the time.
Great! You can join every HOA for every road you want to use. Then you will elect board members for each HOA road. You will also have to pay annual HOA fees for the upkeep of these roads. And that’s just roads. You can join an HOA fire department to put out fires in your neighborhood. You will also elect a board for the fire department. And pay annual dues for them as well. Let’s not forget your HOA post office and HOA police dept. They will each need their own dues and their own elected board.
Yep, that’s a great idea. Granted, another fire department won’t come put out my house if I don’t pay them. And I won’t get mail if you don’t use my specific HOA mail service. And I can only drive on certain roads. But I’m sure it’s better because then I’ll have a lot of different elected officials who will do exactly what I want because HOA officials are notoriously not controlling or power hungry.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:26 pm to Suntiger
Look up the Dullas Greenway.
"Without the slaves, who will pick the cotton?"
Same exact mindset for anyone who thinks we need politicians or government in order to make roads.
"Without the slaves, who will pick the cotton?"
Same exact mindset for anyone who thinks we need politicians or government in order to make roads.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:32 pm to notslim99
Don't all the non-essential workers that get a free vacation get backpay?
Posted on 9/29/23 at 4:32 pm to notslim99
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Tell me why I should be okay with the government shutting down.
quote:Very reasonable question.
notslim99
The answer is the government has placed every individual in this country --man, woman, and child -- in debt $100,000.00 each, and it has If you are in a 4-person household, your government has added a $400,000.00 charge to you. Ahhhh, you can't pay it? No probbbb. The government is happy to borrow more, then charge you for the interest.
This is the same government refusing to pass new budgets for years. Instead it passes continuing resolutions, year, after year, after year.
Put differently, at a 4.5% cost-of-carry, interest on our debt will run nearly $1.5 TRILLION/yr.
$1.5 TRILLION ...
BEFORE
WE
have spent a penny on anything in our budget.
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