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Posted on 10/28/23 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 10/28/23 at 12:37 pm to
Speaking of:



This does not seem a drill. We clearly expect significant developments we plan to be involved in.
Posted by HoboDickCheese
The overpass
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 10/28/23 at 12:51 pm to
Lake City ammo plant canceled all commercial contracts about two weeks ago. They are the largest producer of Winchester 5.56 and supplied about 30% of the civilian market for 5.56
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 12:57 pm to
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Lake City ammo plant canceled all commercial contracts about two weeks ago. They are the largest producer of Winchester 5.56 and supplied about 30% of the civilian market for 5.56


Yep. 100% govt production now.

Clearly a coordinated effort to replenish and control production/supply for our own military use. Not that it’s wrong, just saying it’s clearly a sign.
Posted by UCFACTS4LIFE
Member since Sep 2018
823 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 12:59 pm to
Israel has done billions in improvements in Gaza
Posted by HoboDickCheese
The overpass
Member since Sep 2020
9420 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Clearly a coordinated effort to replenish and control production/supply for our own military use. Not that it’s wrong, just saying it’s clearly a sign.
I couldn’t agree more, it just means there will be another rush on ammo and prices are going to spike again
Posted by Dudley Humptyfrats
'Murica
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Posted on 10/28/23 at 1:09 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/28/23 at 1:10 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27764 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Israel has done billions in improvements in Gaza


I have a feeling when Israel is done turning Gaza City into a landfill the West will unveil a peace plan that is centered on the US funding a transformation of Gaza into a Dubai style tourist paradise. We're going to buy their peace with luxuries they can't currently imagine. With Iran's proxy broken it just may stick.
Posted by ticklechain
Forgotten coast
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 10/28/23 at 1:43 pm to
Who is the peace plan going to be with? Like what parties will be involved?
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27764 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 1:48 pm to
Likely some combination of Israel, Jordan, Qatar, UAE, and the Saudis providing security guarantees and the US and Israel providing funding.

The basis of it will have to be prosperity for whatever Palestinians remain there. Give them some vague reason to be happy in life rather than living in some blockaded, third-world shithole.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55120 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 2:22 pm to
@ragipsoylu
quote:

Hamas leader in Gaza, Yahya Sinwar: We are immediately ready for a deal to release all Palestinian prisoners held by Israel in exchange for all prisoners we have

— Al Jazeera


quote:

Israeli families support the idea, they say Israel should immediately turn over 6,000 Palestinian prisoners in exchange of hostages at the hands of Hamas

Xwitter

Let us remember that Hamas can't even seem to find many of said hostages.
This post was edited on 10/28/23 at 2:23 pm
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4341 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 2:29 pm to
That plan would amount to giving a win to Israel and conceding their tactics worked. Egypt, Saudi, UAE isn’t going to do that, for much the same reason Israel wasn’t going to communicate anything that in anyway validates what Hamas just did to them.

I don’t know what the aftermath will be, but I’ll be shocked if there is any agreement between Israel and any Arab country any time soon after this.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13268 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 2:32 pm to
He'll yeah. Release them, send them home to Gaza..

A) plant tracking devices and hope they lead you to more leadership.

B) War is declared. Release them as POWs. Gaza is the battlefield; if they return to the battlefield they are legit targets. Kill them all on the battlefield.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27764 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Israeli families support the idea, they say Israel should immediately turn over 6,000 Palestinian prisoners in exchange of hostages at the hands of Hamas


I mean, on the surface it sounds like a good deal. Trade 200 innocents for 6000 terrorists, right?





Right?
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17773 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Trade 200 innocents for 6000 terrorists, right?



Sure, as soon as they cross the border back into GAZA "bomb the shite out of them !"

Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10562 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 3:24 pm to
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Trade 200 innocents for 6000 terrorists, right?


Right


Trading 1000 terrorists for one IDF soldier is what birthed this entire murder and snatch raid to begin with.

If I'm Israel I would sacrifice the 200. Write them off. Dismantle Hamas with no regard for their safety. If you rescue some of them along the way, then that's a bonus.

If you negotiate for the 200, it will spawn a whole new kidnap culture. Israel should kill 100 Hamas fighters for every prisoner taken
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3761 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 4:39 pm to
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This is the point where I admit that my dream of a new dawn in Turkish-Israeli relations is fading.

“Israel, how did you end up here? How did you get here? You are an occupier. You are a group, not a state,” President Erdogan said at the rally in Istanbul

“The West owes you something. But we don’t owe you anything. That’s why we say these things so calmly. Unfortunately, every country in the West owes you something,” the Turkish president added.

Other points in his remarks:

?? We will declare Israel a war criminal, we are already working on this

?? Everyone knows that Israel is just a pawn in the region that can be sacrificed when the time comes.

?? Those who shed crocodile tears for the civilians killed yesterday in the Ukrainian-Russian war are today silently watching the deaths of thousands of innocent children in the Gaza Strip

?? The West is responsible for what is happening in the Gaza Strip. The massacre there is entirely the work of the West.

LINK

Eta
quote:

This is the fall of #Turkiye. Over 200,000 Turks are protesting against #Israel in a government organized rally in #Istanbul. Almost half of the Turks are radicalized by their regime headed by a terrorist leader named #Erdogan. They are turning Turkey to another Afghanistan.

LINK

ETA2
quote:

#Erdogan postures for #Muslim masses, in particular for #Pakistan

Meanwhile, #Turkey transports #Azerbaijan’s gas/oil to #Israel

That is 70% of #Israeli hydrocarbon needs through #Turkiye’s BTC pipeline

That is what fuels the #Israeli military to massacre #Palestinian in #Gaza

LINK

quote:

Turkey's Erdogan says Hamas 'not a terrorist organization,' blames The West for 'massacre in Gaza' #Erdogan #Turkiye #HamasNotTerrorists #MassacreInGaza #GazaStrip #InstanbulProPalestineRally

LINK

This post was edited on 10/28/23 at 4:47 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51546 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 5:15 pm to
Leave it to the Orthodox jews. They are the Zealots, arguing against retaliation. Just like the damn Zealots who fought other Jews while the Romans tore down the walls of Jerusalem.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73682 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 5:30 pm to


Know a lot of orthodox Jews do you?
This post was edited on 10/28/23 at 5:31 pm
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9300 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 7:42 pm to
This would force a cease fire.

Then make it harder for Israel to restart military operations in the world view.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3761 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

BREAKING: ???? Czech Defense Minister Jana Cernochová has just called to leave the UN for cheering Hamas terrorists. “Exactly 3 weeks ago, Hamas murdered over 1400 Israelis, more victims for their population than the militant Islamist organization al-Qaeda murdered in the US on 9/11. And only 14 countries, including ours, have spoken out clearly and understandably against this unprecedented terrorist attack perpetrated by Hamas terrorists! I am ashamed of the UN. In my opinion, the Czech Republic has no place in an organization that cheers on terrorists and does not respect the fundamental right to self-defence. Let's get out.”

2/ More on the shameful U.N. General Assembly resolution, drafted by Jordan and other Arab states, that refused to condemn the Hamas massacre:

LINK
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