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re: How Should Israel Apply the Law of Armed Conflict During the Siege of Gaza?

Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:25 pm to
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16720 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:25 pm to
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give civilian 72 hours for safe passage into UN camp (Egypt)


Egypt blew up the border passage and said no you can’t come here. Egypt will provide aid but no passage
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
8330 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:27 pm to
No it's 100% true because they voted for Hamas in the first place knowing what and who Hamas was when they voted them in. They weren't blind to Hamas's intentions. Elections matter.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63707 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:27 pm to
Israel is doing what it can to punish and wreck Hamas while doing what is reasonable to limit civilian casualties. That’s all that can be asked of Israel.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16720 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:28 pm to
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Corch where are they going?


UN sponsored sites. Don’t know the details yet but I will find out
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73518 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:30 pm to
So tent cities I am assuming?

No Arab country will take them in any real numbers

Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:32 pm to
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No it's 100% true because they voted for Hamas in the first place knowing what and who Hamas was when they voted them in. They weren't blind to Hamas's intentions. Elections matter.


Considering our election was stolen I doubt they had much say.
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:36 pm to
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What if they can't leave because Israel has barricaded them in?
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This isn’t the case. Israel has offered routes to safety and places for them to go

Link?

Israel has offered to let them go to Egypt, but Egypt has declined unless Israel guarantees a right to return later. Israel has declined to make that guarantee.
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:39 pm to
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The civilian Palestinians, who number well over 1 million, Are the very ones who put Hamas in charge.
About 3/4 of the population was not old enough to vote when Hamas last allowed an election. Of the remaining 1/4 or so, only a plurality voted for Hamas. The majority voted for someone else.

so, basically, you are willing to kill 2 million people as a result of how 200,000 of them voted 20 years ago.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 5:49 pm
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16720 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:40 pm to
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So tent cities I am assuming?


UN schools. Where the specific location is I’m trying to find out.
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:44 pm to
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Almost 300,000 have already left Gaza since Sunday. If you have the will you will find a way.
330k have been “displaced.”. That does not mean they left Gaza. Almost none have been able to leave. They have just fled their homes. More than 180k of them are in UN shelters … in Gaza. The bulk of the rest are sheltering elsewhere … in Gaza
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:45 pm to
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Corch where are they going?
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19739 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:46 pm to
No siege. Go in and kill them all with extreme prejudice. Drop flyers on their asses telling them they have 24 hours to vacate.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:46 pm to
Correct. Israel controls everything and everyone who enters or exits Gaza.
Posted by Shakey
Member since Sep 2023
107 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:46 pm to
From the NSC this evening:

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“We are working closely with Egypt and Israel to see if we can develop safe-passage options so that those civilians in Gaza who want to leave can leave safely,” White House National Security Council Spokesman John Kirby told The Wall Street Journal. “This isn’t their fault. They didn’t cause this. And if they want to leave, they should be allowed to leave.”
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:47 pm to
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Corch where are they going? UN sponsored sites. Don’t know the details yet but I will find out
you just assured us that over 300,000 have left Garza. Now, you were telling us that you have no idea where they went?

Hint. Those UN sites are inside Gaza
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:49 pm to
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Civilians will die. frick it

They’re not the right religion so it doesn’t matter anyway, right? Git r dun!
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13288 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:50 pm to
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My question to the board: is it? What compromise can Israel take to allow relief to civilians while also ensuring Hamas is destroyed?
air drop them a desalinization unit for potable water with a note saying "good luck plugging it in".
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64583 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:51 pm to
Leave. Areas are being set up. Egypt not helping lol
Stay and suffer.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:52 pm to
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About 3/4 of the population was not old enough to vote when Hamas last allowed an election. Of the remaining 1/4 or so, only a plurality voted for Hamas. The majority voted for someone else.




Seems that the 3/4 who were too young to vote would certainly recognize the existential mistake their parents made, and welcome Israel coming and fixing their dreadful mistake for them. Reckon they will?

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so, basically, you are willing to kill 2 million people as a result of how 200,000 of them voted 20 years ago.


I’m not in their situation, but let me be clear. I would kill anyone who puts the safety and security of my family at risk. Anyone, and any number.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 5:58 pm
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13288 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:55 pm to
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eave. Areas are being set up. Egypt not helping lol
Stay and suffer.
I'd love to see a mash up of old news reports where it looks like the Palestinians are going to be given advice... has a long build up to the big reveal of what that golden piece of advice is... and then: It's Biden telling them to "learn to code"
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