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Football Theory/Playcalling: Why does no one line up under center on 4th and 1?
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:41 pm
I really don’t understand.
Shotgun adds 5 yards to the play.
What is the benefit to setting up for 4th down in shotgun that I am unaware of?
Is it just a lost art at this point?
Shotgun adds 5 yards to the play.
What is the benefit to setting up for 4th down in shotgun that I am unaware of?
Is it just a lost art at this point?
This post was edited on 11/4/23 at 7:42 pm
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Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:51 pm to Scruffy
If you don’t play enough under center, the snap under center becomes high risk.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:53 pm to Scruffy
90% of OCs have no conception how to win games.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:54 pm to Duckismyspiritanimal
Then set aside practice time to practice under center. It’s dumb to be in the shotgun on fourth and 1.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:00 pm to Domeskeller
You are expecting the OL to win their block. Your running power with a QB. You spread out D and counts. It’s just like handing off just one less person handling the ball.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:29 pm to Scruffy
Qb sneak/bush push isn't infallible.
But I agree.
But I agree.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:30 pm to KosmoCramer
Sure, it isn’t infallible, but the concept of starting with a 5 yard penalty makes zero sense to me.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:35 pm to Scruffy
I agree with you
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:36 pm to Duckismyspiritanimal
quote:
If you don’t play enough under center, the snap under center becomes high risk.
Jalen Hurts plays in shotgun every play except for the arse blast.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:42 pm to Scruffy
The handoff still happens at about the same spot on most plays.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:48 pm to Blutarsky
quote:
Jalen Hurts plays in shotgun every play except for the arse blast.
The Eagles are an anomaly. Their conversion rate is measurably higher on the QB sneak than anyone else in the NFL.
It's likely their OL that gets extremely low and cuts the entire
middle of the DL. I think it's Kelce, not Hurts.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:55 pm to Scruffy
quote:
Why does no one line up under center on 4th and 1?
A&M did it multiple times today. Lined up under center at the goal line and got a couple of TDs and also got a 4th down conversion out of it.
This post was edited on 11/4/23 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:11 pm to KosmoCramer
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I think it's Kelce, not Hurts.
I think it’s both (and the whole OL). Doesn’t Hurts squat like 600 pounds?
Posted on 11/4/23 at 10:00 pm to Dr RC
And a lot of teams converted from the shotgun.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 1:02 am to Scruffy
Maybe that was Miles' logic of employing the toss on 4th and 1 with a badass runner downhill with momentum. Surprised more teams dont try to run someone like Refrigerator Perry on short yardage situations.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 2:20 am to Scruffy
A lot of stupid people involved in football today
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:02 am to Scruffy
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:39 am to Domeskeller
quote:
Then set aside practice time to practice under center. It’s dumb to be in the shotgun on fourth and 1.
Exactly - I'll never understand it or agree with it.
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