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re: Tommy Moffitt to be the Strength & Conditioning coach at A&M
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:24 am to TrueLefty
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:24 am to TrueLefty
Yall excuse the Missouri fan. He can’t read or decipher that Kelly hired his own guy and that the posters are referring to the final years of Ed O.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 5:25 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:52 am to GaTiger27
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It doesn’t sound like an Elko hire
Moffit was recommended by someone on his Duke staff.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:30 am to crazyLSUstudent
A&M loves them some former LSU coaches.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:33 am to Lester Earl
Yeah, i dont think he is washed up as much as maybe he uses more old school methods, which i think may lead to a few more injuries then newer methods. We have been a really healthy team since Flint got here
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:28 am to TheRouxGuru
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I know you’re not going to reply, so I’m wasting my time, but I’d love to see you explain yourself here…. What do you know about his program? What do you know about the other programs nationwide? Use specifics please
im pretty qualified and knowledgable of Tommys program and many others and anyone saying he was washed up is dumb AF
I didnt always agree with everything tommy did, especially when it came to conditioning, mainly because we disagreed that conditioning built mental toughness as I think that is complete bullshite and causes way too many injuries
but tommy was one of the first to go to olympic based system, then he lsowly switched to more of a conjugated approach with olympic lifts still in the program(think westside for olympic lifting) then slowly went over to Velocity based system as the technology became available. He was one of the first to bring in more of a westside approach and was one of the first to bring in velocity based training where bar speed became huge indicator.
was tommy the best at monitoring nutrition and making sure everyones blood work was perfect and they were getting all the vitamins to optimize everything...frick no. but he took a lot of shite for O having zero consequences to not meeting your macros. FTR he bitched to O a ton about that, especially in 2021.
2020 wasnt really on him, more of a systematic failure from the top, all the way to the governor and his bullshite covid response.
Tommy is old school when it comes to conditioning and mental toughness etc. He is completely up to date on weight and plyometric training. I would say the last two years have allowed him to talk with lots of people and become more up to date on speed training.
with all that said...would i think this is a good hire for a program like UGA, BAMA, Michigan, Ohio State etc etc.....hell no, would be a terrible hire. For A&M, for the complete culture change they need....its the perfect hire imo. Will they be the healthiest and most optimized team...prolly not, but they need a culture change and that is what Tommy is best at.
and anyone thinking this should be held against him...frick you. Dude wants to work, period. WTF is he supposed to do...sit around and not accept big time jobs thrown his way?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:38 am to BilbeauTBaggins
This may be a good hire or colossal failure. At one time he was considered the best in the business. Whether it was the dysfunction in the coach’s offices or whether it was him, his message wasn’t resonating anymore.
Glad he is not part of alignment, happy for him he gets paid, and hope Aggie football looks like my 600lb life next season.
Glad he is not part of alignment, happy for him he gets paid, and hope Aggie football looks like my 600lb life next season.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:41 am to josh336
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Yeah, i dont think he is washed up as much as maybe he uses more old school methods,
He doesn't use old methods & LSU was not injury prone under him
This is what is funny though. Les Miles' last recruiting class (2016) was pretty good, & Coach O's first class in 2017 was a knockout. But on the field, LSU fielded young teams in 2017 & 2018, and people were saying how they were getting pushed around & shite.
No one ever gives Moffitt his flowers for developing these kids into the 2019 Tigers. People, though, will skip over 2019 and go straight back to 2017-2018 when they were "weak", not realizing the process.
By 2020-21' the program and its talent had crumpled. They lost both coordinators and a slew of players to the NFL. The 2019-20 recruiting classes were massive failures, in terms of transfers & busts. But somehow, Moffitt catches bullets for the destruction of the program. It's crazy.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:46 am to TrueLefty
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Who fault was that? Is that on Kelly?
Yes the notre dame coach was at fault for Orgeron’s sputtering program you absolute pillock
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 8:51 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:53 am to Lester Earl
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He doesn't use old methods & LSU was not injury prone under him
This is what is funny though. Les Miles' last recruiting class (2016) was pretty good, & Coach O's first class in 2017 was a knockout. But on the field, LSU fielded young teams in 2017 & 2018, and people were saying how they were getting pushed around & shite.
No one ever gives Moffitt his flowers for developing these kids into the 2019 Tigers. People, though, will skip over 2019 and go straight back to 2017-2018 when they were "weak", not realizing the process.
By 2020-21' the program and its talent had crumpled. They lost both coordinators and a slew of players to the NFL. The 2019-20 recruiting classes were massive failures, in terms of transfers & busts. But somehow, Moffitt catches bullets for the destruction of the program. It's crazy.
agreed.
but he isnt the best on soft tissue stuff. that and conditioning is where he is a little more old school but a lot of that is at the HC direction and many of the soft tissue injuries he got blame for was because Miles was a physcopath when it came to practice, the length and amount of hitting going on, especially late in the season.
in 2021...in response to 2020, O wa sthe same way. practices were tough AF, tons and tons of hitting and a lot longer. exact opposite of what had made him a pretty good coach up to that point.
moffitt got lots of shite and still does from people that couldnt plan an LP for a freshman in HS...ignore the ignorance.
i challenge anyone that says he was washed to please go over in detail and explain TMs programming methodology and what parts were out dated
was it outdated when he moved to a more conjugated approach? when he moved to a VBT system? what about when he started bringing in elements of yoga, pilates and gymnastics for overall health? what about when he brought in more strongman type movements and switched to almost all hill sprints in the off season for conditioning so they could cut down on any injuries?
yall act like he had 1 program since 2000 and he never ever ever deviated from it one time, never changed and it was the only way. when its pretty much the exact opposite. I have pretty much read every single thing he has ever put out and everything his mentors have put out. i have watched every single interview he has ever done, i have listened to every one of his podcast and everyone he has done as a guest....i have years upon years of his off season programs...trust me...he never stayed the same and the programming he did from the early 2000s didnt look a whole lot like the VBT system he used in the late 2010s
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:03 am to lsu777
Moffett was never the problem with Miles and Os last years
of incompetence.Any coach is only as good as his boss lets
him be.Towared the end of the previos 2 coaches careers
at LSU they turned their backs on the details it takes to win.A strenght coach can only do so much if the head coach
doesnt have his back.Les and O didnt care anymore.Fact.
of incompetence.Any coach is only as good as his boss lets
him be.Towared the end of the previos 2 coaches careers
at LSU they turned their backs on the details it takes to win.A strenght coach can only do so much if the head coach
doesnt have his back.Les and O didnt care anymore.Fact.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:20 am to CRW
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Miles and O
i mean both coaches are morons. that wasn't tommy's fault.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:28 am to CRW
you dont win 3 NCs with 3 different coaches with all vastly different schemes and ways of doing things while being "Washed up"
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:34 am to BilbeauTBaggins
To all the people laughing at this hire: Sometimes it takes change to re motivate a person to what they were. I think Tommy got burnt out and complacent here. I hope this doesn't bite us in the arse. And of course, I always want to see aTm fail miserably.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 11:02 am to lsu777
Very solid post, kind of what i was hinting at. I think flint maybe was a little more out front addressing those kinds of things. Maybe moffitt transitioned to it later on, but i definitely dont think he is washed or in over his head. He’ll do fine at A&M. Not sure how your post got downvoted
Posted on 12/13/23 at 3:01 pm to 225Tyga
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I heard this as well. Disappointed in him. TRAITOR
What is it with LSU fans and ex coaches going to other places and being pissed at said coaches? Just because they coached at LSU once means you own them?
My gosh, LSU fans have to be the most self absorbed group to ever root for a team.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:41 pm to lsu777
I appreciate the insight. I just wanted highlight the idiocy of some of the people around here who throw shite out there like ‘he’s washed’ while having no fricking clue what they’re talking about
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:57 am to BilbeauTBaggins
“Wait till Moffitt gets a hold of him.”
Thankfully, no longer uttered around here.
Thankfully, no longer uttered around here.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:19 am to TouchdownTony
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What is it with LSU fans and ex coaches going to other places and being pissed at said coaches? Just because they coached at LSU once means you own them?
My gosh, LSU fans have to be the most self absorbed group to ever root for a team.
bro this shite right here goes all the way down to the HS level. got admin and school board members that act like they own a kid because his address happens to be in their community and how dare he go to another school
as bad as public schools are in LA, you get complete shite if you come from a smaller community and decide to go to a catholic school.
its a fricking loser mentality that many in LA share. especially in south LA. essentially its poor people problems for the most part because they have a internal fear of being left behind. same reason some get mad when kids leave the state or even a family move out of state.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:34 am to JimTiger72
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2019 S&C coach of the year
2021 he’s washed up
He caught lightning in a bottle in 2019, but LSU’s teams from like 2014 to 2021 were awful in comparison to previous years in conditioning outside of that outlier.
Moffitt WAS a great S&C coach, but was getting passed up by younger ones including his protégés because he wouldn’t adjust. Once offenses more consistently started going fast, his teams failed. It was not all on him and maybe most of it wasn’t, but the LSU teams were consistently getting gassed throughout his tenure here under multiple coaches in the latter years.
Really after 2013, things started to go downhill more often than not.
With that said, anyone hating on the guy for taking the job is stupid. He has every right to take it and hope he is happy there.
I don’t know if it will be a good hire in the end for A&M or not, but he will work hard for them and improve the culture as others have said.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 7:49 am
Posted on 12/14/23 at 10:52 am to Geauxgurt
Everyone should go watch the interview he did last night with Mik’d Up, his youngest who’s at LSU said dad I’m never going to be an A&M fan, said he was never going to sell his home in BR and joked that a member of his deer camp tried to get him kicked out. Never said an ill word about LSU and talked about the pressure towards the end if the Miles era and what he called the tsunami that hit it 20 & 21, sounded like a man who needed a break.
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