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re: Here’s what I don’t understand about the CFP selection that I’m not seeing discussed much

Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:07 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72856 posts
Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:07 pm to
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Imagine being stupid enough to think 13-0 vs 12-1 is the absolute end of the discussion


For every other year of the College Football Invitational, that's exactly what happened in similar circumstances.

I wonder what's different this time?

Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
506 posts
Posted on 12/16/23 at 11:23 pm to
If that ref had called the CLAP by a CHEATING Auburn Coach/Player, it would have been 2nd and Goal from the 3 yard line. CASE CLOSED
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
506 posts
Posted on 12/16/23 at 11:26 pm to
You guys have embarrassed yourselves enough, keep playing those chump schedules. You lucky the Refs chested for Auburn in 2013 or we would have kicked you guys #$@@ easily.
Posted by Oneforthemoney
New Iberia, La
Member since Dec 2013
1811 posts
Posted on 12/16/23 at 11:51 pm to
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FSU went undefeated and whooped a top 15 team in the conference title game with a third-string QB


Yeah, that acc #2 team Louisville that was beaten by the sec's #8 team Kentucky
Posted by Oneforthemoney
New Iberia, La
Member since Dec 2013
1811 posts
Posted on 12/16/23 at 11:51 pm to
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Florida State is undefeated. Alabama isn't. The discussion is over right there.


So why didn't liberty get in when they were undefeated too? Sos matters.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72856 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 12:39 am to
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So why didn't liberty get in when they were undefeated too? Sos matters.


This was already addressed when the last big brain tried pushing the same idiotic point. Go read that, then stop making it.
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
1507 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 12:53 am to
I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, but I just don't give a frick about FSU or Bama and their problems. One of them was going to take the shaft and I couldn't care less which one, except a slight preference for Bama since they're in our conference, but even that, meh, frick 'em both.
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11932 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 1:04 am to
Because why use wins and losses when we can go with something as definitive and concrete as “eye test”?
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20034 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:44 am to
FSU was held to a different standard than everyone else, plain and simple.

They handled UF in the swamp the same weekend. As you noted Bama could have easily lost, they probably should have but that’s a different discussion. FSU, despite it being ugly, also had a pretty convincing win over Louisville relative to some other playoff teams.

In the same guideline as “player availability” they mention a “bounce of the ball”. The same guideline that mentions strength of schedule also considers head to head competition.

Also, nobody is questioning the other undefeated teams at all. Everyone seems to focus on whether it should be Bama or FSU. That is completely bailing the committee out IMO, if you don’t put the most obvious teams in, you need to justify every team in, not just why you left one out. They had every guideline work against them.

The committee really needs/needed to explain what FSU could have done to get in. What were the actual expectations? Not have a player get hurt? Unreasonable and dangerous. Not playing in the ACC? Clemson and ND didn’t get that treatment.

I don’t know how anyone can support this. FSU being left out, especially with Bama replacing them, undermines the importance of the actual games and why a playoff would ever be played in the first place - to prove something that hasn’t already been proven. Nobody has proven FSU can be beat, and UT has proven they can beat Bama. If bama and FSU both win out, the playoff would be worthless and inconclusive - how can anyone think they “got it right”?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:11 am to
Bammers are so desperate for everyone to view them as deserving, when in reality no one outside of the state of Alabama and ESPN’s corporate offices thinks that is the case.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14434 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:18 am to
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Because why use wins and losses when we can go with something as definitive and concrete as “eye test”?




That's how I got my wife, my cars, and my house.
Posted by Dale3
'Merica
Member since Aug 2014
380 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:21 am to
Yep, just like UGA and Bama…
Georgia may have got screwed worse than FSU.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:32 am to
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This was already addressed when the last big brain tried pushing the same idiotic point.


So strength of schedule does indeed matter?
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28114 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:33 am to
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TTOWN RONMON



More window lickers finding their way to MSB.
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2004
4772 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:35 am to
Imagine the nfl telling the patriots in 2000 to shut it down after Bledsoe went out and just forget the playoffs because of one player

You can’t deny a team a chance to win it all when they haven’t lost at all …

Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9444 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:39 am to
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And you think this is a new thought? And just so you know, when is a loss a loss? When you are on the short end and there are zeros on the clock. Florida State 31 Boston College 29. What the hell was that all about? FSU 31 Clemson 24 (OT) That's 4 loss Clemson. FSU 27 Miami 20 at Doak Campbell That's 5 loss Miami. Why it's almost like rival games are the hardest. FSU 24 Florida 15 That's 5-7 Florida. Another rival game, another close game. A dominant FSU team in the great ACC? More Rant mytholo

Two can play this game:
Bama-17 USF-3
Bama had to score late to make it a "two possession" win. This USF team lost by 17 to Western Ky, 21 to UAB, and 42 to FAU. What the hell was that all about?

Bama-26 TAMU-20
Barely beats a 5 loss A&M team

Bama-24 Arkansas-21
Bama has to hang on to scrape by an Arkansas team that was 1-7 in the SEC, and lost at home to Mississippi State 7-3 the next week.

Bama-27 Auburn-24
The luckiest of lucky plays came into play as Bama had a 99.5% chance to lose before that play to a 6 win Auburn team that had just lost by 21 to New Mexico St at home(NMSU first win EVER vs a SEC team), but "mUh RiVaLrY GaMe!"

So, your post hold ZERO water in this argument




Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
14434 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:39 am to
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You can’t deny a team a chance to win it all when they haven’t lost at all …



Pretty sure you can. Next season college football mimics the NFL with a dozen getting in the party. Could have been this year but the ACC just didn't want it.

Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3173 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:40 am to
Still a lot of pearl clutching by LSU I see.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14434 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:44 am to
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So, your post hold ZERO water in this argument



Except that my reply had to do with measuring BAMA in just the manner you did. You could be late to this debate.

Face it dude, FSU is out because the Playoff Committee didn't believe in them. There is nothing wrong with bias, as long as it doesn't surround hatred and stupidity.

The Committee got it right.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9444 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:49 am to
You don't know what the hell the committee got right. Let the games played on the field decide that. Oh, that's a novel approach, let the games decide things not a stupid arse "eye test", or made up rules. So, if Michigan kicks the shite out of Bama, and/or FSU beats Georgia will you still say the committee "got it right"?
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