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re: Unreleased footage of hurricane Katrina from New Orleans fire department documentary
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:06 am to The Mick
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:06 am to The Mick
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The entire house was gone with the only thing remaining was a tiled shower wall. It was perpendicular to the beach so I guess after everything else gave way, it was free standing and able to withstand.
Along with one of my cousins, probably in Nov or Dec, we took an ATV ride down what was left of the highway to look at the damage. We weren't in Long Beach because a National Guardsman in a Humvee was at the border between PC and Long Beach. He told us we couldn't cross. I asked if we should go back to the house. He said No, we could ride around PC all we wanted, but that we weren't allowed into Long Beach. He didn't know why, but we weren't allowed in Long Beach.
So we turned around and headed west. I saw a house about a half block off the beach with nothing left but a toilet. Everything else around it was completely slabbed. I drove up to it to look around. It had about 4 or 6 ~4" metal poles bolted to what apparently was the front porch. The wood cladding was gone and the poles bent to the slab. Each had 4 pretty substantial bolts thru a baseplate and into the slab. About half of the bolts were sheared off and the other half bent nearly 90°. Nothing else left on the slab except that one toilet.
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 5:23 pm to White Roach
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Everything else around it was completely slabbed. I drove up to it to look around. It had about 4 or 6 ~4" metal poles bolted to what apparently was the front porch. The wood cladding was gone and the poles bent to the slab. Each had 4 pretty substantial bolts thru a baseplate and into the slab. About half of the bolts were sheared off and the other half bent nearly 90°.
My understanding having spoken with some builders and structural engineers is that houses on wooden stilts are fine until the water and wave action hits a certain height after which they simply cannot handle the torque associated with strong surge.
To survive a storm like that a house has to have sufficient elevation and be on concrete pilings that are well set in the sand.
In addition the house will fail if the windows blow out or the roof goes as is common with anything not built to the S FL storm codes now required. Even a well built new home isn’t going to handle a surge past the height of the pilings.
Realistically nothing we can build is going to survive a 30’ surge and Cat 3/4 wind on the water down there due to the storm surge potential of the area, it’s just not realistic due to cost and how it would make the house look from an aesthetic standpoint.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:48 pm to White Roach
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Along with one of my cousins, probably in Nov or Dec, we took an ATV ride down what was left of the highway to look at the damage. We weren't in Long Beach because a National Guardsman in a Humvee was at the border between PC and Long Beach. He told us we couldn't cross. I asked if we should go back to the house. He said No, we could ride around PC all we wanted, but that we weren't allowed into Long Beach. He didn't know why, but we weren't allowed in Long Beach.
Yea the first few days, the only people that could get into LB were residents. Sadly, were were in that number. We evacuated to Hattiesburg to stay with my brother. Wasn't any safer there in hindsight. It was absolutely horrendous seeing the place you live in that condition. We lived about a mile off the beach in Long Beach, luckily north of the railroad tracks which acted as a levee. We still had 6 pine trees on our house though. Most of my best friends lived south of the tracks and lost everything. I can still remember finally making it down to St. Thomas on the beach with 4 or 5 of my friends and being absolutely shocked at what we were seeing. We had lived there for most of our lives and were completely lost. There were no landmarks, no houses, no nothing. I've been unable to find the exact report the last few years but it was documented that Long Beach had the highest surge at 36'. I've seen a few that say 30'+ but the one I saw was a map with the levels laid out across the coast. There are still slabs along the beach and just off that have never been rebuilt.
Someone else mentioned the silence and that still stands out in my mind. We were completely cut off from civilization for almost 2 weeks. It was pitch black and dead silent at night. Silence like you cant imagine.
My grandpa and cousin loaded up a 55 gallon drum of gas in the back of his GMC in Opelousas, grabbed his 1911, .357, and sweet 16 and headed east on I-10. National Guard stopped them at the LA/MS border and asked what they thought they were doing. My grandpa explained to them where we lived and what he was bringing us. Guards warned them that they were going to be a target once they got into the state and my grandpa showed him the 2 pistols and said "I kinda figured as much."
Guard wished them luck and let them through. We had no idea they were coming and when they rolled down our street and into our driveway, all of our neighbors were outside (cleaning up) just starring
Ill never forget it. We were like "What in the actual frick are you doing!?" WILD times
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 9:49 pm
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