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re: Ice cold air because of global warming???

Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:49 am to
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63694 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:49 am to
It seems that message boards or other social media are not effective
places to rationally discuss climate
issues. People are too dug in with their opinions and mainly want to get in the last post to make their point.

Climate change at least deserves serious study and discussion. I’ll
readily acknowledge that I don’t have answers.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262266 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:50 am to
quote:

rationally discuss climate
issues


Its an el nino winter, probably not the best time to be making definitive climate change claims.
Posted by cbtullis
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2004
6309 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:54 am to
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Climate change at least deserves serious study and discussion. I’ll readily acknowledge that I don’t I have the answers


No one really has the answers….climate change is very big business though!!
They have been gathering data for for about 180 years….now compare that to the fact that the planet has been around for over 4 billion years and I’d say it’s some very limited data at that
News flash. The climate on this planet has always been changing and it’s not because of cow farts
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 9:57 am
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68416 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Climate change at least deserves serious study and discussion. I’ll
readily acknowledge that I don’t have answers.




OK let's go.

Please start with explaining the carbon cycle.

Next, explain the "ideal" atmospheric levels of CO2 and CH4

Then, please compare the affects of these two gases with the affect of the concentration of water vapor.

Thats a good start. Problem is, the climate clowns never want to discuss any of these issues
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262266 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:59 am to
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Climate change at least deserves serious study and discussion


If they would stop blaming every weather phenomenon on climate change, maybe more people will listen to them.

Dishonesty begats disrespect.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32615 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:36 am to
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Climate change at least deserves serious study and discussion. I’ll readily acknowledge that I don’t have answers.


here’s the answer. The climate has changed since the formation of this rock and will continue to do so until the sun envelops it. Man has nothing to do with it and can’t control it unless we cut down every tree on the planet or have a worldwide nuclear war.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7853 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:37 am to
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Climate change at least deserves serious study and discussion. I’ll
readily acknowledge that I don’t have answers.




I don't have any answers either.

but the fact that the climate of earth has been in continuous change like a pendulum swinging as far back as we can somewhat reliably discover, I think the odds of us humans causing it is probably pretty slim.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34724 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:45 am to
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Climate change at least deserves serious study and discussion.


Only that isn’t happening, as only one narrative (we are all going to die soon, so buy electric and eat your crickets) is allowed.

Pollution, especially as it relates to plastic, is a bigger concern of mine.

The world is in a CO2 drought right now, and the plant life is suffering (trees produce an enzyme that is needed to handles “oxygen poisoning,” which in turn means they are weakened and more susceptible to weather events). Ironically, this fact has basically been banned by the MSM and social media, and instead we are told that we need to reduce our carbon footprint. To what end, starvation?

Climate catastrophism is a religion unto itself.

And this is their goddess:



And the Just Stop Oil” lunatics are their zealots.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10441 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:08 am to
As long as the earth endures,

seedtime and harvest,

cold and heat,

summer and winter,

day and night

will never cease.

Genesis 8:22
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112666 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:12 pm to
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Climate change at least deserves serious study and discussion. I’ll readily acknowledge that I don’t have answers.


I seriously studied it for 10 years before I came to this board. It was called Global Warming back then. They changed it to climate change when the warming models were proven to be fake.
They're still faking the data.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18126 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 3:29 pm to
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Climate change at least deserves serious study and discussion. I’ll readily acknowledge that I don’t have answers.


Your side needs to quit lying about it and falsifying data. The lib climate prognosticators haven’t been right on hardly any of their predictions. Sensible people see through that. Plus, none of the biggest warmers practice what they preach.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8222 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 4:00 pm to
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Climate change at least deserves serious study and discussion
The climate is gonna do what the climate is gonna do. It has changed several times over the course of history. There is nothing we can do about it. It is not in our hands.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4575 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:33 pm to
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t seems that message boards or other social media are not effective places to rationally discuss climate issues. People are too dug in with their opinions and mainly want to get in the last post to make their point. Climate change at least deserves serious study and discussion. I’ll readily acknowledge that I don’t have answers.


VOR - Not sure how many years you’ve been on this blue ball but I can remember ever since as a kid in the 70s, there’s been a “climate scare” of one type or another: New Ice Age, Acid Rain, the Ozone developing huge holes, Global Warming….now the modern catch-all is “Climate Change”.

Once I start to see a couple of key things happen, then I’ll start to think maybe it’s time for serious discussions

1) When I start seeing more consistent “unprecedented” instead of “worst since” events. “Worst since” means whatever has in fact occurred before.

2) These wealthy elites who lead the scare and have the means to do so start selling off their coastal estates and high-tailing it inland or to the mountains, etc. But for all the fear mongering going on, you still see an awful lot of them still purchasing and living in coastal properties that most anyone would agree are exceptional.

3) When I see leaders of the Western nations in a near panic and threatening/pleading/consistently/loudly and publicly calling out nations like China and India to get on board ASAP instead of the occasional fruitless state visit and coming back like the West alone will have to save the world, then maybe that panic and urgency is sincere.

Until then, I’m not sure what “discussions” are considered fruitful short of one being lectured and ultimately taking a knee to “the science” while the world has done pretty much what it always had over the eons and changes its climate over time.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
9933 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:25 pm to
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Climate change

No such thing. Just another democratic money grabbing talking point.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15975 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:19 pm to
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rationally discuss climate issues


Let's start with why communists are using the climate change hoax to exert unconstitutional power over ordinary Americans
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