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Belichik or Saban: Who was the better coach and who proved more?
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:35 am
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:35 am
I say Beichick. It's a lot harder to win in the NFL when you don't have a gaping talent advantage compared to all the other teams and there are way more restrictions.
Saban was great, but he simply out-talented other people. Pats weren't always more talented. Bama never won a title against a more talented team IMO.
Saban was great, but he simply out-talented other people. Pats weren't always more talented. Bama never won a title against a more talented team IMO.
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:37 am to Geauxgurt
Belichick got to coach of the best players ever to play football for 20 years, imagine if Saban got to keep his best players for more than 3 or 4 seasons.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:38 am to Geauxgurt
Bill had a goat QB for 20 years. Nick had to spin a new one up (as well as a brand new team) every few years and still sustained success.
Saban is the better coach.
Saban is the better coach.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:39 am to Geauxgurt
Belichik has zero superbowls without Tom Brady.
Saban has seven national championships without Tom Brady.
Saban has seven national championships without Tom Brady.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:42 am to Geauxgurt
Both very impressive. Belichick did it in a league designed to stay competitive across all teams. Saban established a competitive edge with a superior brand and monopolized talent.
However both are the greatest in their perspective leagues.
However both are the greatest in their perspective leagues.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:43 am to Geauxgurt
The NFL is and will always be the greater stage. Saban is the GOAT for CFB but it’s Bill.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 11:44 am
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:45 am to Geauxgurt
Belichik hasn’t won shite without Tom Brady
Saban is the better coach. Brady winning a SB at Tampa at his age showed he was the bigger factor at New England
Saban is the better coach. Brady winning a SB at Tampa at his age showed he was the bigger factor at New England
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:53 am to Geauxgurt
Saban and its really not even close.
Bill Belichik's record without Tom brady is abysmal. 84-103. That translates to a winning percentage of roughly 45%. He would be fired over and over if not for Tom Brady.
249-75 with Tom Brady with 6 championships.
Bill Belichik's record without Tom brady is abysmal. 84-103. That translates to a winning percentage of roughly 45%. He would be fired over and over if not for Tom Brady.
249-75 with Tom Brady with 6 championships.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:06 pm to Geauxgurt
Neither are as impressive as their resume shows.
Belichick showed he couldn’t win without Brady and Saban showed he couldn’t win without having a talent advantage.
You can bitch about and hate this post all you want but the proof is in the pudding. Both failed after losing their “bell cow”.
I’m not saying they were bad coaches by any means, just that the reality doesn’t exactly live up to the hype.
Belichick showed he couldn’t win without Brady and Saban showed he couldn’t win without having a talent advantage.
You can bitch about and hate this post all you want but the proof is in the pudding. Both failed after losing their “bell cow”.
I’m not saying they were bad coaches by any means, just that the reality doesn’t exactly live up to the hype.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:13 pm to Geauxgurt
Saban is a far better leader
It's not even close in my opinion
Go listen to Bill talk and then listen to Nick
It's not even close in my opinion
Go listen to Bill talk and then listen to Nick
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:37 pm to Geauxgurt
Saban
He’s won titles with every type of team and every type of player. Not to mention he dominated the SEC with teams at their peak like Florida, LSU, UGA, Auburn, etc
Bill won with Brady and defense in the weakest division in football for 20 years
He’s won titles with every type of team and every type of player. Not to mention he dominated the SEC with teams at their peak like Florida, LSU, UGA, Auburn, etc
Bill won with Brady and defense in the weakest division in football for 20 years
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:39 pm to Geauxgurt
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I say Beichick. It's a lot harder to win in the NFL
It is when you have the GOAT QB. What has Bill done without Brady? Brady did pretty well without Bill
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:47 pm to Geauxgurt
They were both amazing and it’s impossible to compare.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:55 pm to Geauxgurt
Saban is more accomplished imo. Saban did in multiple styles (defensive and offensive led teams), with multiple different QBs, and had to replace his whole roster every 4 years.
Belichik won with the GOAT QB and lost without him.
Belichik won with the GOAT QB and lost without him.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 3:03 pm to Geauxgurt
Belichick’s legacy problem is that he didn’t gracefully decline. His results fell off a cliff after Brady left, leaving one to wonder how much of that train was really him and not just riding the established QB.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 3:30 pm to Geauxgurt
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when you don't have a gaping talent advantage
Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:17 pm to Geauxgurt
They are both really really good
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:07 pm to Geauxgurt
Relative to their level, it’s Saban for 3 reasons:
1. Won a title at multiple schools
2. Won with multiple, and pedestrian, quarterbacks
3. More successful coaching tree (despite Saban being part of Belichek’s tree)
Belichek’s sustained success in the nfl is awfully impressive, however, he may never be able to shake the fact that Brady’s greatness is transposed over Belichek’s run, and when Brady left, the patriots fell apart.
1. Won a title at multiple schools
2. Won with multiple, and pedestrian, quarterbacks
3. More successful coaching tree (despite Saban being part of Belichek’s tree)
Belichek’s sustained success in the nfl is awfully impressive, however, he may never be able to shake the fact that Brady’s greatness is transposed over Belichek’s run, and when Brady left, the patriots fell apart.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:42 pm to Geauxgurt
What a stupid debate. Saban couldn’t hack it at the highest level. Without 90 first rounders every year, he’s average at best. 15-17 says hi
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:18 pm to Geauxgurt
The two best coaches in my lifetime across all sports at all levels are Nick Saban and Phil Jackson.
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