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DBU origins? Was it Corey Raymond?

Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:40 am
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:40 am
I was trying to look it up. Who all does Corey Raymond get credit for as far as DBU goes? To me, the best defensive backfield LSU ever had was probably 2010 or 2011 right?

You had, before PP7 left, Him, Mo Claiborne, Tyrann Matheiu, Ron Brooks, Baker? at safety, #26 im drawing a blank on what his name was, and Eric Reid. Was that Corey Raymond? or was he after with like.. Jalen Mills... and Jalen Collins moving forward?
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27911 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:43 am to
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DBU origins? Was it Corey Raymond?
Definitely not Raymond, it was Cooper.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
5151 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:50 am to
Saban to Bo Pelini to Ron Cooper

Cooper started that Patrick Peterson -> Tyrann Mathieu run but we had great DBs before them too
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13032 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:52 am to
Look up Hookfin and his teammates/fellow DBs. That's where it really started but without the moniker. They set the gold standard with turnovers, which to me is THE metric with good pass D all around. DB coach was Harbison.
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
1810 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:02 am to
DBU originater is Nick Saban, let’s just be honest. He made guys like Hookfin and Randall Gay into nfl players and recruited Webster, Laron Landry, etc. Ron Cooper and Raymond just continued what he started.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9001 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:09 am to
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DBU origins? Was it Corey Raymond?


Corey Raymond gets the most credit by the media but honestly Saban started it and Bo Pelini continued it for 3 years then Ron Cooper took it to another level and Raymond kept it going after that.

Rightfully everyone talks about 2010 and 2011 as the best Secondaries we had. But 2003 isn't far behind. Travis Daniels and Corey Webster at outside corner with Randall Gay at nickle and LaRon Landry at Safety. The weakest link of all those teams is Jack Hunt but he still had a solid season as one of the leaders of the team.
Posted by ATLTiger
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:25 am to
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DBU origins?


The Saban regime

They got the talent level up, coached them guys up and got us known as a stout defensive team (mostly) year-in, year-out. DCs/ staffs after that kept it up (again, mostly) and the accolades flowed.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:40 am to
Cooper started it, Raymond continued it
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4830 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:41 am to
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DBU origins?


As others have said, the production started with Saban. Raymond gets a lot of credit b/c he did it for longer than anyone else. Ron Cooper had a short stint here where our DBs were amazing. According to others, it seems that Cooper didn't recruit a lot of those guys, but I don't remember that well enough to state that as a fact. But the phrase DBU became synonymous with LSU while Raymond was here. It may have been used a time or two before that, but when Raymond left LSU was known as DBU nationally.
Posted by Tigger98
Member since Oct 2020
913 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:47 am to
Has LSU made an official announcement yet on his return?
Posted by TDlurker
Member since Oct 2007
688 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 9:08 am to
Have always hated the "DBU" thing. Makes it sound like LSU is some niche upstart. LSU is "Football U." The only thing ever missing was legendary QB play, and now we have that.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8657 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 9:27 am to
I agree and have been saying this. Raymond was here for a long time and got a lot of good DBs to LSU and into the NFL, but he wasn't the reason we were DBU, he just continued it.
Posted by ZenFNmaster
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2509 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 9:35 am to
Ron Cooper established it, and Corey did a great job keeping it going.
Posted by Ragin Tiger1
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2018
958 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 9:44 am to
It was Ron Cooper.
Posted by TheTruthPolice
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2010
939 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:34 am to
Cory Webster and Travis (I don't play for the name on the back of my jersey) Daniels. Travis is one of my favorite players ever. Looks like he is enjoying retirement. LINK
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
4947 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:48 am to
Anyone who says Raymond started DBU is new to LSU football.
Posted by Courtbouillon
Member since Aug 2022
35 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 1:38 pm to
Chris Williams, Willie Teal, James Britt and Marcus Quinn. This was probably the best ever.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10432 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 2:06 pm to
It was Nick Saban. I'll say it.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
10370 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 2:31 pm to
I've been reading this argument for over a month on this board. If Raymond wants to shut down these arguments then deliver the goods on both recruiting and what is seen on the field. Your move Corey.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22424 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:35 pm to
PP7, Corey Webster, and a couple others actually started DBU. They had shirts made that said DBU on the front and Brotherhood on the back
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 4:36 pm
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