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MBB : Early conference play opinion

Posted on 1/21/24 at 10:25 pm
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
10667 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 10:25 pm
The team is better than anyone but the team expected and way better than the td basketball fans expected. The guard\wing options are impressive at times. Their speed allows enough spacing for more 3pt opportunities and lane openings.

Coach seems to have settled on Baker, Dean, fountain, Reed as the 4/5s with Williams, cook, wright, and Hannibal pushing the offense. Reed, ward, wright have all improved their overall efficiency as the season has advanced.

The defense hasn’t been a top characteristic for this team. Less than 5 instances of double digit rebounds by team. Consistently put opposing team in the bonus and have the same opportunity with 75% free throw percentage.

The SEC schedule for all teams is brutal. If you think this team isn’t going to get sprains, strains, colds, broken hearts, go watch baseball. However coach has a couple role players on the bench in wilk, stew, collins or chest. The team is moving in the right direction. I don’t see more than 8 sec wins but was guessing 5 a month ago.

Geaux tigers! Keep fighting!
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65566 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 10:33 pm to
Only likely wins I see for LSU hereafter are Arkansas, Missouri, and @ Vanderbilt. Anything else besides Alabama/Tennessee is a toss up. Not sure if LSU will steal any more road victories.

It’ll probably get you to the NIT at least. Had LSU hung on against 15-2 Dayton and not lose to that in state school, they might’ve been almost a bubble team at the moment.

Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
7537 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 10:38 pm to
We are better than expected but still not good enough IMO. I like McMahon but there has been a standard set in LSU athletics the past few years and I don’t think MBB should be held below that standard for any reason. At LSU I don’t want to compete for an NIT spot, I want to compete for a championship like we do in just about every other sport.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1976 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:08 am to
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The defense hasn’t been a top characteristic for this team.


I would disagree and say if anything forcing turnovers and being annoying on defense has been this team’s identity

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Less than 5 instances of double digit rebounds by team.


Baker is soft and can’t rebound but McMahon plays him the most. Reed has not lived up to his billing and lags in real time. I can see the gears turning in his head as he watches the ball sail over his head instead of going up for the rebound. Fountain, Collins, and Chest are good rebounders but don’t see the court enough. Idk why fountain doesn’t play. McMahon just hates collins I guess. And Chest got a redshirt (which was a terrible decision).

It’s quite sad that the best rebounders on our team have been guards. Baker has had games where he was outrebounded by players a foot shorter than him (Cook and Stewart) as well as Williams and Wright. Pitiful.

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However coach has a couple role players on the bench in wilk, collins or chest.


I agree but he doesn’t play them so
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 12:09 am
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19827 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 7:41 am to
quote:

The team is better than anyone but the team expected and way better than the td basketball fans expected.


I'm not sure this is accurate. The advanced analytics had this team ranked in the mid-50s preseason, so it was a legit bubble team. Not having Cook eligible hurt during OOC play. However, the last 3 games have highlighted some of the concerns about Cook in conf play. He is shooting below 35%, including below 20% from 3, and has 14 turnovers. He has to play better for this team to have a chance. A real positive for Cook is that his defensive play has improved over last season as CMM has coached him up.

The offense is streaky and is 5th in the conference in 10-0 runs per game, but they counter that by completely disappearing at times. The streaky offense and not so great defense has resulted in LSU giving up the most 10-0 runs in the conference, even worse than Vandy. So they are never truly out of a game but no Tiger lead is safe
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73624 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 7:51 am to
Better than expected. That’s the nicest thing I can say so far.
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
9181 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:40 am to
quote:

The team is moving in the right direction. I don’t see more than 8 sec wins but was guessing 5 a month ago.



I can agree to this, even thought the TAMU game sucked and we fell apart down the stretch 3/2 is a good spot for this team.

Now while I see some progress all that can get wiped away if they can't regroup after a loss with a really tough stretch ahead. Also Playing Baker is coaching malpractice at this point. Idc if we have to run four guards out there he is a black hole. Admit you missed on him and let fountain/Dean/Collins take his minutes
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7155 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:58 am to
We are a big man away from being alot better. We dont get much from them unless Dean playing against smaller opponents.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12077 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:30 am to
Man, wait until the season is over before giving a verdict.
Its like giving an opinion, firing the coach, in the first quarter.
We have some tough games in the next couple of weeks. Let it play out.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
9111 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 10:47 am to
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Coach seems to have settled on Baker, Dean, fountain, Reed as the 4/5s with Williams, cook, wright, and Hannibal pushing the offense. Reed, ward, wright have all improved their overall efficiency as the season has advanced.


The good news is that if he can keep them in the program, we have a really nice core for next year's team in Williams, Ward, and Reed. Maybe a couple of others (Fountain or Cook?) have another year of eligibility left too? But they are set up to just be a solid team and could be really good if the C from HS is ready to contribute and/or we get one in the portal. We would also need at least one of Ward, Williams, and/or Reed to develop into a go to guy. Or again, get a go to wing in the portal and allow the others to be really good role players.

Long story short, we have a nice core for next season if we can keep them together.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
5151 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 11:51 am to
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I don’t see more than 8 sec wins


I could see them getting to 9 or 10..
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