re: When do you guys start to blame Jay?

Our fans can be insufferable at times. I understand its a loud minority but still. Dude won a National Title in his second season and he doesn't even get 1 full season before this sky is falling approach.

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There is no excuse for what we are watching this year with how well we have recruited.

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Yes, since Jay has taken over we have recruiting and gotten players at the portal at a very high level. But, that last recruiting class from Paul which turned into Jay's first left a lot to be desired. But also Jay has proven to be very successful at developing players. But there has been two players who we were going to rely on this year that have regressed or just not developed. And some of that is on the player not just the coach.

But he literally just won the Title and you're already looking for reasons to place blame on him. There is obvious disappointment watching this team especially last night but the glaring issue is effort. And that falls on the players, because Jay if nothing else is a relentless worker.