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re: 'The Fantastic Four’ Casting News: Ralph Ineson is Galactus

Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:31 pm to
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not every character is going to get a movie. not every character is going to make it on the screen.



And?

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just like Night Thrasher doesn’t get his own comics. I mean come on.



I have a Night Thrasher #1, so yes he does. He had a couple of runs. And he got a new run this year. He's an awesome character, very much akin to Iron Man.

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Also, Fury was white in the comics before he became Samuel L Jackson.



Wrong. He was black in the Ultimate Universe in 2001.

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They didn’t make Norrin Radd a woman. they made the herald of galactus a woman. gerald’s of galactus are silver looking surfers.



They are making the Silver Surfer a woman, as per the announcement. Even is she is Shalla. Even if there is a precedence - like I've already said. The Silver Surfer is a man. Will always be a man. Is recognized as a specific character. A guy. It's that simple.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67005 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:42 pm to
I cant make you accept this is good, but pretending there is no reason to do it is dumb.

especially when the comics have multiple people who are silver and surf.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 12:43 pm
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
6726 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:44 pm to
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SammyTiger


How much is Disney/Marvel paying you to simp for them?
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37444 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:48 pm to
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That’s not what’s happening this is not the original surfer it’s his wife who had a short run as the surfer. It’s also more than likely an alternative universe.


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I cant make you accept this is good, but pretending there is no reason to do it is dumb.

especially when the comics have multiple people who are silver and surf.




Let me put it another way.

Per dawg's comment - Even though this happened - they are NOT doing the Earth X story - having Norrin and Shalla as Surfers.

And you are right that they are not turning Norrin into a woman. They are using Shalla-Bal.

But what they are most likely doing - seemingly - is they are going to turn "Norrin" into a woman. They are going to use his story of dedication and sacrifice into HER story. They will, most likely, use all of the trappings of the Norrin story and put a woman into it instead.

That's the problem. I'd say there is no issue if this were Earth-X or Juno or Aunt May (who was Surfer in a What-If comic), and they did those stories as the Surfers. The issue is that they will use Norrin's story for this.

That's why -

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there is no reason to do it
. That's not Shalla's story, that's not Juno or Frankie's story.

Does that make more sense?
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29053 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:49 pm to
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then they're going for Galactus to show up in the franchise.



they did that last time (Chris Evans, Jessica Alba version) and it was very lame. Made him void and formless.

Just like Dormamu.
Posted by ThoseGuys
Wishing I was back in NC
Member since Nov 2012
1982 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:49 pm to
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Take Captain America. It worked so well to 1) Have the classic Cap and 2) Bring in Mackie as the new Cap, where the ground work was already laid in the comic


I would like to point out once more that the current Captain America in the MCU is from Louisiana and is an LSU fan. Therefore I conclude that in the MCU, LSU is America's team. That is all.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5075 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:56 pm to
Once again, the evolution of leftist social engineering...

1) "It's tin foil hat stuff. None of that is happening."

Then it happens.

2) Why do you care? It's not that big of a deal. Why are you so ANGRY about it?

Then it becomes the norm.

3) You're in the minority. You're full of HATE and IGNORANCE.

Repeat.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67005 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:04 pm to
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they did that last time (Chris Evans, Jessica Alba version) and it was very lame. Made him void and formless.


well fox did that.

hopefully they don’t do that here.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29053 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:08 pm to
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hopefully they don’t do that here.




Disney did it with Dormamu as well.



vs


This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 1:09 pm
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
4676 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:31 pm to
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just like Night Thrasher doesn’t get his own comics. I mean come on.


This doesn't mean you couldn't do a New Warriors mini with him in it. Not every character gets a solo movie but that doesn't preclude them from using black characters that exist already.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69060 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:54 pm to
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Originally a young astronomer named Norrin Radd on the planet Zenn-La, he saved his homeworld from the planet devourer, Galactus, by serving as his herald. Imbued in return with some portion of Galactus' Power Cosmic,[4] he acquired vast power, a new body and a surfboard-like craft on which he could travel faster than light



Its okay, was already trans
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69060 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:56 pm to
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Garner will play Shalla-Bal, a version of Silver Surfer from the comics.


The wife of the silver surfer?
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11803 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:59 pm to
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Its okay, was already trans


Trans and non-binary because he’s like a Ken doll down there.
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
4676 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:05 pm to
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The wife of the silver surfer?


Yeah the more I think about this, what if she's just playing norrin radd's wife and not a version of the silver surfer?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69060 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:17 pm to
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Yeah the more I think about this, what if she's just playing norrin radd's wife and not a version of the silver surfer?



I think they are doing this to shoehorn a female in. And they can point to, oh she was in the comics.


But in the alternate universe, they are both surfers, twin heralds. It was never just her.

She doesnt exist without him though because him becoming the surfer was to save their planet.




This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 2:21 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51749 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:37 pm to
I'm gonna add that this also shows marvel is really working on keeping budgets down. Pedro might be getting 5 mil, but none of these other actors are breaking the bank. There were strong rumors that marvel wanted Adam Driver and Margot Robbie, but those actors wouldn't lower their price tags.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64922 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:46 pm to
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Would it kill Disney to NOT gender/race/orientation swap a classic character? I mean, can we get one movie where this does not happen??


One of the main pillars of the ideology of the woke left is that everything, without exception, must either conform to the party narrative or be destroyed.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30999 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:10 pm to
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Also, Fury was white in the comics before he became Samuel L Jackson.


Wrong. He was black in the Ultimate Universe in 2001.


What's funny is that the art for him in the Ultimate Comics was specifically drawn to LOOK like Samuel L. Jackson.

Made it easy to know who to star in the role.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67005 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:21 pm to
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What's funny is that the art for him in the Ultimate Comics was specifically drawn to LOOK like Samuel L. Jackson.


it’s also why I said that.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
30999 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:57 pm to
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it’s also why I said that.



I know; I was more referencing the statement you were replying to.
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