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re: On Mounjaro for two months, my take ****New Update pg 11 w photo****

Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:20 am to
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:20 am to
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These people are looking for a quick fix and the easy way out. You should know it simply doesn’t work that way when it comes to fitness/diet/health etc. If you are this upset this will be my last post on topic.


ok, well from now on just say....hey look the drugs will help you lose the weight but you are going to have more sides then necessary unless you make lifestyle changes and follow a minimum effective dosing protocol.

then just say if you need help with diet design or exercise program just speak up and we can help

but man you are derailing every thread

and i know you may not see it as taking a moralistic approach of saying its cheating....but you are certainly acting like it and essentially telling them...hey if you do it that away its not good enough


in the end you are going to have to come to this understand these truths

1) without the medicine 80% plus of those people would never lose the weight. They are not wired like us, you and I are wired to compete in everything and frick some other guy thinking he can be more ripped than me or frick some other guy being healthier than me or even competing with ourselves with the "frick my brain and cravings, ill show that mother fricker" mindset. they dont have that. its the medicine or failing over and over

2) its hard as frick for people like us to accept...but there is such thing as food noise. its a sub category of eating disorders where essentially these people think about and crave certain foods at all times. especially the thining about part.

3) them using the medicine and losing the weight is much healthier than trying and failing and never losing it. the medicines also have positive effects on the brain, impulse control, addiction and heart health. it is an absolute game changer for alcoholics, tobacco users and at high doses those with hyper sexuality.

Posted by BawtHouse
Member since Dec 2021
237 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:54 am to
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in the end you are going to have to come to this understand these truths 1) without the medicine 80% plus of those people would never lose the weight. They are not wired like us, you and I are wired to compete in everything and frick some other guy thinking he can be more ripped than me or frick some other guy being healthier than me or even competing with ourselves with the "frick my brain and cravings, ill show that mother fricker" mindset. they dont have that. its the medicine or failing over and over 2) its hard as frick for people like us to accept...but there is such thing as food noise. its a sub category of eating disorders where essentially these people think about and crave certain foods at all times. especially the thining about part. 3) them using the medicine and losing the weight is much healthier than trying and failing and never losing it. the medicines also have positive effects on the brain, impulse control, addiction and heart health. it is an absolute game changer for alcoholics, tobacco users and at high doses those with hyper sexuality.


Sigh. I can’t resist. You just described a disease. Acknowledging it is a disease would not release a person’s responsibility for taking control and action. Maybe that’s where the disconnect between us exists. You and I both support taking responsibility and action for one’s ability to get healthier. I would argue that relieving a person of the mountain of shame and degradation that society has suffocated them with about their disease is a massive key to inspiring them to take action again(even though the multitude of other times they have tried hasn’t worked). Most patients report feeling a loss of hope that anything will ever work. History has taught them that. Consuming less calories than one spends would cause a loss of weight, but that’s assuming everyone is capable of doing that without chemical balancing(when an imbalance exists). Some can. Most can’t. Seeing so many others find success with these meds is what is driving more to take action and seek help again. Removing the stigma clears the path for so many more. Acknowledging it is a disease allows those people to breathe again and stop feeling suffocated by their inability to overcome the food noise driven by chemical imbalances with will power alone. You are already acknowledging that.

It is pretty amazing how much this topic triggers people. I guess fat shamers fear losing their perceived elevated status in society. If unable to point “down” at others, weak minds will feel they are at rock bottom in society. Nobody wants to feel like they, so fat shakers point, ridicule, laugh, and in doing so perpetuate the problem.
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