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nothing really, just couple assholes who believe GLP-1s are the devil and will kill us all and then others that think the surgery is much better option

In my brief passing, that is what I was seeing too.

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despite the fact that prolly over 50% of competitive bodybuilders are using it for show prep. imagine that...the best people in the world at staying disciplined are using the medicine well.....to help with food discpline.

that was my biggest reason for starting it and I am having great success with it. Down almost 30 pounds and keeping my size and strength in the gym.

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Posted by hogfly

Fayetteville, AR

Member since May 2014

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Posted on 4/10/24 at 9:51 am to jose

I understand the inclination to dismiss these folks "gains" (losses) as non-lasting. That being said, it goes against just about all the science on formation of habits and lifestyle changes to dismiss this out of hand. Often some kind of catalyst/impetus is needed to establish or break habits.

GLP-1 can absolutely be that for these people. Are there going to be a lot of people who don't make the necessary lifestyle changes? Of course... BUT (and this is a big but), there will also be people who are able to make lifestyle changes and keep the weight off who wouldn't have been able to do so without this catalyst.

The real breakthrough would be if it were treated as a "whole health" issue and part of the GLP-1 regimen included ongoing education, coaching and counseling around diet, exercise, etc.. as an accountability measure. But we aren't there yet in our healthcare system.

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Posted by Tiger_n_Texas

Member since Aug 2014

1021 posts

Posted on 4/10/24 at 10:05 am to jose

To get this thread back on topic some, I wanted to add my experience after 1 week on Ozempic.

The 'food noise' that several have referenced is real and for me this medication eliminated that within 24hrs. I took my first dose last Wednesday, and on Thursday (and several days since) I had to make myself eat more than I wanted just to keep from being in too steep of a caloric deficit.

So I really want to insist that anyone that decides to go this route absolutely track their calories/protein. Over the last week I've averaged 2300 calories and 208g protein per day. I've still lost an average of 0.83#/day (5.8# total).

I don't have the expertise to point out the mechanics as to why the OP's example of not eating all day until a yogurt at 2PM is a horrible plan. With my workout schedule, if I'm losing almost a pound a day at 2300 calories, I can't fathom how much muscle loss and extra skin I'd have with losing at an even faster rate.

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