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re: Mark pope to kentucky

Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:19 am to
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:19 am to
You have to be a unique type of coach to be successful at a school like Kentucky.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9265 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:58 am to
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Lots of coaches have elevated programs much worse than BYU


Like? Name a school that has as many restrictions like no sex, no alcohol, no caffeine etc etc that will literally get you kicked out of school. Go ahead...ill wait. Recruits aren't lining up to play at BYU. The fact he was able to win 20+ games tells you he can coach. Kentucky fans should give this a chance.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36481 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:07 am to
byu has won 20+ games every year besides 4 times since 2000. he was one of the 4

acting like BYU is a nothing program is stupid, they have been solid. i think pope could be good, but let's not pretend he did something that he did not do. he won 0 tournament games and made the tournament 3 out of 5 seasons (2 of 4, but would have made covid year). he stayed completely on par with their program's success level.

this was a good year in a big 12 transition and i would be encouraged by that if i were kentucky. and then they lost to duquesne....

it's just a little bizarre, but he's one of their own, it could work for sure
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:07 am to
Didn’t realize he played at UK for Pitino and also played for Larry Bird in Indiana.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35430 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:12 am to
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Like? Name a school that has as many restrictions like no sex, no alcohol, no caffeine etc etc that will literally get you kicked out of school


Oral Roberts who has had more recent success than BYU
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9265 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:37 am to
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Oral Roberts who has had more recent success than BYU


Get out of here with that...
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35430 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:37 am to
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Get out of here with that...



Infinitely more tournament wins than Mark Pope
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36481 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:39 am to
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Like? Name a school that has as many restrictions like no sex, no alcohol, no caffeine etc etc that will literally get you kicked out of school. Go ahead...ill wait.

what scott drew did at baylor is infinitely more impressive than coaching at byu

obviously they tried for scott drew and failed
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9265 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:58 am to
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what scott drew did at baylor is infinitely more impressive than coaching at byu



How so? On what planet is it harder to recruit at Baylor than it is at BYU??? Are yall smoking crack? 5* 4* Recruits are not lining up to go to BYU...the simple fact BYU has been able to remain a competitive school in ANY sport is amazing. Did yall miss the part where its illegal to have sex, drink alcohol or drink tea at BYU? Holy smokes...
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 10:01 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145257 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:01 am to
Drew walked into a situation that was akin to a program coming off the death penalty lol
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9265 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:04 am to
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Infinitely more tournament wins than Mark Pope


Oral Roberts has had ONE decent NCAA tournament in 2021. That's it...how is that "infinitely" better??
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11340 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:05 am to
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Oral Roberts has had ONE decent NCAA tournament in 2021. That's it...how is that "infinitely" better??
Do you even math, bro?
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9265 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:07 am to
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Drew walked into a situation that was akin to a program coming off the death penalty lol


Still WAAAAAAY easier to recruit at Baylor than it is at BYU. Baylor just built a new arena. WAAAAAAY easier job at Baylor. I'm pretty sure that Mark Pope beat #25 Baylor and Scott Drew this year 78-71 in BYU first year in the Big 12.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9265 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:08 am to
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Do you even math, bro?


Do you even English, bro?
Posted by tWildcat
Verona, KY
Member since Oct 2014
19365 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:11 am to
Already received a 4 million dollar pledge for NIL and the Crafts say they’ll put in 5 million.

I’m optimistic but sounds like we never made a push for Donovan which is odd.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9265 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:13 am to
Baylor Basketball recruiting rankings:

2024 - #9
2023 - #3
2022 - #26
2021 - #15
2020 - #20

BYU Basketball recruiting rankings:

2024 - #67
2023 - #80
2022 - #80
2021 - #150
2020 - #80



Not even in the same universe...And yet Mark Pope was able to BEAT Scott Drew...Kentucky's "preferred choice"...with considerably less talent than Scott Drew's Baylor squad. What does that say about Scott Drew...nothing...it says more about Mark Pope. Y'all are way too blind. Give Mark Pope the access to resources and no more restrictions...then we will see how good of a coach he can be. Again...BYU is a TOUGHHHHH place to coach. Anybody who cant see that, isn't being realistic.
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 10:21 am
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10618 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:15 am to
LOL
This post was edited on 4/13/24 at 6:54 am
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
13261 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:15 am to
Lol. A "blue blood" school like Kentucky can't find a better hire than Pope?

Maybe he can hire Kenny Payne as an assistant.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145257 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:16 am to
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Still WAAAAAAY easier to recruit at Baylor than it is at BYU.
now think about what it was like in 2003 when they were coming off a literal murder scandal, multiple level 1 violations, hadn't made the tournament in 15 years, and had an all time losing record
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9265 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:20 am to
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now think about what it was like in 2003 when they were coming off a literal murder scandal, multiple level 1 violations, hadn't made the tournament in 15 years, and had an all time losing record



And?????? It is still WAAAAAY easier to recruit and build a program at school that doesnt have the strict student code restrictions that BYU does. The fact that Drew was able to take that situation and win an national championship proves MY point. My goodness...
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