re: "Travel enthusiast” is grateful his student loans are forgiven

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Imagine a libertarian lauding government fricking the cost of education. I've seen it all now

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Roger, cut out the strawman act. It’s fricking boring. Especially when you quote tiny snippets of larger posts, which is painfully transparent.

I don’t think any of this should exist. I’m a minarchist libertarian, for frick’s sake. But I don’t live in anything resembling a libertarian paradigm, so yes, that will find me explaining policy issues from a comparative good or bad perspective instead of purely along ideological lines.

Stop pretending that you’re an idiot.

you're supposed to be ok with it because he's a healthcare hero

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They're getting a handout without paying for it, just like ole boy in the OP.

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No. Military service is a public good. The kind of thing taxes are supposed to pay for. “Travel enthusiasts” and healthcare are not. Luxury and personal care anrent public goods. These are not comparable contributions to the national common goods.

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No. Military service is a public good. The kind of thing taxes are supposed to pay for. “Travel enthusiasts” are not. These are not comparable contributions to the national common goods.

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I’m not at all interested in wading into the “veterans are welfare queens” debate, but I think you’ve unfairly framed the argument. Sure, travel enthusiasts aren’t, but I think most people would say that public defenders, doctors who go out to underserved rural areas, etc, are doing a public good. One can certainly argue about the relative benefit, but I don’t think any reasonable person would say that their societal benefit is zero.

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Stop lying, you're supporting this fricking lawyers getting welfare, while making 100k plus, while he little guy is stuck with the inflated cost of education, caused by govt interference. 5 years ago you would have agreed with me on this.. This inpart is how the cost of education became bloated..

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Roger, if you stopped being an argumentative frick for a few seconds and actually read my posts giving me anything resembling the benefit of the doubt, you would see that I’ve been quite clear that I don’t think any of this should exist. Government shouldn’t be loaning money for education, much less forgiving those loans. We should get rid of ALL deductions, if we are going to have involuntary taxation at all. There should be zero “government programs”. If government is to exist, it should be to have a reasonable military to protect us from without, a reasonable police force to protect us from within, and a court system to enforce lawful contracts.

But again, I don’t live in that world. I live in a world in which government blows trillions, with a T, of dollars every year. So when I see people acting in a manner that I consider hypocritical or disingenuous regarding how some of that money is spent, it becomes a topic of conversation.

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So when I see people acting in a manner that I consider hypocritical or disingenuous regarding how some of that money is spent, it becomes a topic of conversation.

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Govt has screwed up higher Ed, this is counter to fixing it. I wonder how much of the public would support this if they knew who would benefit. Probably not many.



Have your local DAs pay better, or include forgiveness as a benefit instead of socializing the debt across the country, if it's that important.

Any male who uses pronouns is not a man.

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Govt has screwed up higher Ed, this is counter to fixing it. I wonder how much of the public would support this if they knew who would benefit. Probably not many. Have your local DAs pay better, or include forgiveness as a benefit instead of socializing the debt across the country, if it's that important.

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I get it. I was simply explaining the policy. My issue in this thread hasn’t been people saying it’s bad policy; my issue has been people either saying that this guy is a bad person for having his loans forgiven under the policy, or my taking issue with people who are just flat out misrepresenting what the policy is.

WTF work your arse off the pay student loans and your mortgage? Disgusting.
Should have let the discharge in BKCY remain. All the doctors nad lawyers used it years ago and then the banks immediately gave them $250K in new credit so they could start their practices, buy MBs and million $ houses.
This country is beyond screwed up. The people that do it right get bent over with no lube,