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re: Trump, Contempt and the Secret Service

Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by OzonaOkapi
Patrolling the Edwards Plateau
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:21 pm to
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Are the transmissions from ankle monitors encrypted or even remotely secure?
I'm quite certain that his would be. I also sincerely doubt that an ankle monitor would be used, considering that he will have a permanent SS detail for the rest of his life
Regardless of whether we are discussing DJT, W or Billy Jeff, I think that this raises an interesting question.

A former POTUS is just a private citizen, and he is subject to judicial process just like you or me ... or at least he SHOULD be. Secret Service is tasked with preventing crazy people from killing him, but I would be VERY surprised if their statutory authority extends to "interfering with state-level judicial orders."

Take an extreme example.

A grand jury in (for example) Missouri indicts Billy Jeff for some felony, and he decides that he DOES NOT want to surrender to the arresting deputies. Is Secret Service obligated (or even AUTHORIZED) to prevent officers of the State of Missouri from arresting him? Do they engage in a firefight to prevent it?

I suspect that nothing in their charter would authorize that sort of action. If we start from that premise, how would they be justified in preventing a state judge from ordering the use of an ankle monitor in enforcing a criminal contempt ruling?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:13 pm to
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A former POTUS is just a private citizen, and he is subject to judicial process just like you or me ... or at least he SHOULD be. Secret Service is tasked with preventing crazy people from killing him, but I would be VERY surprised if their statutory authority extends to "interfering with state-level judicial orders."


I wasn't suggesting they would interfere. In fact I believe they would be bound to uphold it and limit his movements/monitor etc.

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Is Secret Service obligated (or even AUTHORIZED) to prevent officers of the State of Missouri from arresting him? Do they engage in a firefight to prevent it?

Absolutely no to either of those things. In fact, its the opposite I believe. They would cooperate fully and completely with a lawful court order or warrant. They'll be going with him, but the SS isn't going to prevent his arrest, etc.

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how would they be justified in preventing a state judge from ordering the use of an ankle monitor in enforcing a criminal contempt ruling?

I don't think the SS would prevent it. I don't think a judge would bother with a monitor, as the SS would practically ensure that Trump never violated any sort of court order restricting his movements.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 2:15 pm
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