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re: The goal of many Gen Z and millennial women is now to be a DINK—dual income and no kids

Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:27 pm to
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No one was ever guaranteed to "live nice".



I find it interesting you defend an economy where two people earning the average income can't live nice.
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You might drive 2 old arse cars and live in a 1100 square foot house but you can make it no doubt.


The American dream is dead if this is all an average income gets you.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
716 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:27 pm to
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Why didn’t your mom get a 2nd job? Or a third for your dad?

Why didn’t your dad get two better jobs than the two insufficient ones he had?


I missing the part where you a part of this at all. You're leveling criticism where you should be leveling praise. Both parents did what they could to get back on track after the rug was pulled out from under them; their teenage sons pitched in to help temporarily. That's what families do.

Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51979 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:27 pm to
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You might drive 2 old arse cars and live in a 1100 square foot house but you can make it no doubt.

people can't afford 1100 sqft apartments but you think EVERYTONE should just get better jobs like you can take a ticket at the DMV and wait in line for a better job.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
85393 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:29 pm to
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people can't afford 1100 sqft apartments but you think EVERYTONE should just get better jobs like you can take a ticket at the DMV and wait in line for a better job.


You haven't heard of the infinite supply of 6 figure jobs just waiting to be filled?
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:29 pm to
Now you’re confusing me again…
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
716 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:29 pm to
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If two able bodied and able minded adults can’t generate enough income to simply feed their family (as in being able to purchase food) then it’s a safe assumption they are lazy as frick.



No, it's not; not many assumptions are safe. He's explained it, and you're choosing to double-down on your asinine statement.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24462 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:30 pm to
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You haven't heard of the infinite supply of 6 figure jobs just waiting to be filled?


I’ve read here that you just need to become a plumber and you’ll make that in under 5 years. I’ve also read that we don’t have any plumbers.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51979 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:31 pm to
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You haven't heard of the infinite supply of 6 figure jobs just waiting to be filled?


I just got an email for jizzle6609's ALPHA JOB SEMINAR where he's going to show everyone who paid $1500 how to get 6 figure jobs and be able to afford an 1100 sqft house and own 2 old used cars.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
36637 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:37 pm to
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You're leveling criticism where you should be leveling praise. Both parents did what they could to get back on track after the rug was pulled out from under them; their teenage sons pitched in to help temporarily. That's what families do.


Because this poster is acting like potential financial strain is not a legitimate consideration when deciding on or when to have kids. Stating that income isn’t static and you can just get a better job if you need/want more income. All while coming from a household where he had to get a job so his parents and siblings had food to eat.


I’m sure his mom and dad would have loved to have gotten better jobs so that their kids didn’t have to work to literally put food on the table. I wonder if he ever asked them why they didn’t simply get better jobs. Maybe he realized then, which he apparently doesn’t now, that “just get a better job” when you are struggling financially is fairly useless advice.
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
110837 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:37 pm to
He doesn’t have time for that. He needs to clarify what I’m supposed to do with my life. UGH.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30628 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:38 pm to
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money was often a significant factor


It use to be that family (kids, parents, siblings, spouse) were the most important aspects of a person’s life. Now the most important aspects are money, travel, and pets. Signs of a dying society.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
19396 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:38 pm to
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People simply don’t want to give up their 4 times a year vacations and new cars to have children. 


I still have all of that. It got tough for awhile, but we made it through with some cutbacks, what helped is I got married at 28 or 29, wife is 4-5 years younger than me and we waited two years to start having kids. I wouldn't exactly say it was planned exactly that way, but everything happened about how I wanted it to. Life is not that hard. Do things with intention and nothing is too much to handle.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51979 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:39 pm to
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He doesn’t have time for that. He needs to clarify what I’m supposed to do with my life. UGH.
he will explain at the seminar for an extra $750
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
110837 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:39 pm to


Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3889 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:44 pm to
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A further 41% of Gen Z women—those born from 1997 onwards—say they won’t follow this path, with 32% noting their goal is to have no children at all.


Death knell for western civilization. All of this other stuff is just window dressing. Demographics is destiny.
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:49 pm to
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I’m sure his mom and dad would have loved to have gotten better jobs so that their kids didn’t have to work to literally put food on the table. I wonder if he ever asked them why they didn’t simply get better jobs. Maybe he realized then, which he apparently doesn’t now, that “just get a better job” when you are struggling financially is fairly useless advice.
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
Check my style out
Member since Aug 2004
7229 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:51 pm to
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People overstate what this truly costs. Until they are much older kids eat very little, clothing them can easily be made very cheap.


Someone doesn't have to send kids to Baton Rouge private schools
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24462 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:53 pm to
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Because this poster is acting like potential financial strain is not a legitimate consideration when deciding on or when to have kids.


It is a legit consideration. Didn’t mean to give that impression.

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Stating that income isn’t static and you can just get a better job if you need/want more income. All while coming from a household where he had to get a job so his parents and siblings had food to eat.


They did get better jobs. Mom went from a factory worker to a nurse. Stepdad went from a factory worker to eventually owning his own business. This didn’t happen instantly and their layoffs occurred when I was a freshman in HS and brother was a Junior. My first job was at 14 cooking breakfast at McDonalds on weekends (I actually liked this job).
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I’m sure his mom and dad would have loved to have gotten better jobs so that their kids didn’t have to work to literally put food on the table. I wonder if he ever asked them why they didn’t simply get better jobs. Maybe he realized then, which he apparently doesn’t now, that “just get a better job” when you are struggling financially is fairly useless advice.


Maybe I expressed myself wrong and I certainly see your point. My point was if you WANT kids then do whatever it takes to afford them. My parents did that for the majority of my childhood. Income is not static. There are times when it is harder to find a better job or whatever. If people don’t want kids, don’t have them. But the “I can’t afford it” for many simply means they don’t want to afford it. This is my experience, yours may vary. I would never call you lazy and haven’t in this thread. I said people like to whine and they do. My parents never complained and I’m not complaining here. The fact I’ve worked since the age of 14 is something that molded who I am and I’m glad it occurred.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3342 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:56 pm to
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Where can I sign up?


You have to be hot.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
5748 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:58 pm to
Well the cost to raise a kid is fricking astronomical. By the time you’re done dealing with their shite head teachers and the parents of the other kids your mind is fricking gone. You got no money. You got no time do see the world. You’re just a piece of shite that tried too hard to do the right thing and everyone around you fricked you in the arse.

So there’s that.
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