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re: Beatles or Stones?
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:05 pm to FortunateSon
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:05 pm to FortunateSon
quote:Ehh
Mick is the best front man of all time
He's better than Daltrey (or Keith Relf), I'll give him that.
But the Beatles had two much better "frontmen"
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:07 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:I'm not really interested in the political commentary of millionaire rock stars
a better political commentator overall than Lennon
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:12 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:Jagger's vocal is embarrassingly condescending on this & "Faraway Eyes".quote:That's funny - those are literally my 2 favorites!
country feel with Dead Flowers
As bad as McGuinn on "The Christian Life" from SOTR
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:16 pm to DownSouthJukin
quote:I agree w/John - PS took "the worst recorded shite" & at least made it releasablequote:Post recording production by Phil Spector.
all of which were atrociously recorded
quote:I'm not impressed by The Beatles Naked
Let it Be… Naked nails the originals.
The album called Naked, I mean
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:42 pm to Kafka
quote:
I agree w/John - PS took "the worst recorded shite" & at least made it releasable
I’ll have to agree with Paul on this one. The Wall of Sound Phil Spector treatment was way too much.
So you and John will have to just disagree with me and Paul. There’s a song in there, also.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:47 pm to DownSouthJukin
quote:me, John, & Phil
So you and John will have to just disagree with me and Paul.
3-2, we win
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:28 pm to Kafka
Phil killed a woman. His doesn’t get a vote.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 11:26 am to Kafka
quote:
But the Beatles had two much better "frontmen"
Keith Richards: “Man, you were lucky, you guys, you had four lead singers,’ whereas The Rolling Stones only had one.“
Posted on 5/12/24 at 3:25 pm to The Boat
All I’ve got to do. Lennon and the boys at their best
Posted on 5/12/24 at 8:23 pm to TwoAggiedaughters
quote:
All I’ve got to do
Peak Lennon as a vocalist.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:12 pm to TwoAggiedaughters
quote:Recorded in 1963!
All I’ve got to do. Lennon and the boys at their best
One of the youtube comments said it best: A masterpiece...buried beneath a mountain of masterpieces. This song is barely at all even in the popular consciousness.
That opening chord, tho
Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:26 pm to hogcard1964
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However, The Beatles set the table for everyone else. ... including the Stones.
I see this point a lot, but its not even really a valuable point in a debate on the topic
Every musician has influences, if its impossible for a band to be better than its influences then whoever was the largest influence on the Beatles should be who we are talking about, but its not.
That said, I think the Beatles are a world apart from the Stones musicially.
I'd still rather go to a Stones concert or listen to a Stones record more though.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:06 pm to VolSquatch
quote:That's true, but it's sort of amazing the extent to which the Beatles created the Stones - including not only giving them the very idea to write their own songs, but then also giving them their first hit single on the fly just as proof it could be done (I Wanna Be Your Man).
but its not even really a valuable point in a debate on the topic
Every musician has influences, if its impossible for a band to be better than its influences then whoever was the largest influence on the Beatles should be who we are talking about, but its not.
That said, I think the Beatles are a world apart from the Stones musically.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:55 pm to SaintlyTiger88
The Beatles were fundamentally changing music while the Stones were still doing blues covers. After the Beatles broke up, the Stones came into their own, especially with the addition of Mick Taylor.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:32 am to SaintlyTiger88
quote:
when it came to the Beatles and Rolling Stones, you were into one or the other. There were Beatles fans and there were Stones fans.
I think Beatles or Elvis is the more revealing question. There's near 100% overlap between big fans of the Beatles and Stones. I guess I'd take the Beatles because there have been other great bluesy rock bands but there's never been anyone quite like the Beatles. If Lennon had lived there was a great chance of a reconciliation and just what they would have morphed into remains the biggest what if in rock and roll.
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