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IMO how this gets overlooked is wild. if anything it justifies him answering a door with his firearm, its pretty much the point of 2a. are you supposed to just lick the boots before you even know why they need to be licked in your own home before you even know what is happening?

this is where I am falling.

The fact is is the cop did not give the guy a reasonable amount of time to follow the orders before he blasted him away. Its not illegal to answer your own door with a gun. It doesn't really matter if it was a dumb move or not. It is well within your rights as a citizen to do so, and it does not give a cop the right to start shooting at you, especially after sketchily banging on the door then hiding around the corner out of sight of the peephole. If the cop had said drop your weapon and the guy raised the weapon, then different story. But that is not what happened. The cop shouted orders and then a second later (maybe less) started unloading on this dude. The cop murdered this dude. There is no way around it.

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Posted by TeddyPadillac

Member since Dec 2010

25889 posts

Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:16 pm to Funky Tide 8

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The fact is is the cop did not give the guy a reasonable amount of time to follow the orders before he blasted him away.

No one in this thread has said what he did was right and doesnt' deserve consequences for his trigger happiness.

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Its not illegal to answer your own door with a gun.

No one has said it is not.
It's not illegal for me to ride my bike down Siegen Lane at 5PM on a Friday either.

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It doesn't really matter if it was a dumb move or not.

Yeah, it does matter. It's part of the reason why he's dead. If he isn't a dumbass and answers the door like a normal person, he's alive today. But go ahead and prove your point that you can answer the door with a gun when a cop is at the door. We can put on your gravestone that you were well within your rights.
I can go ride my bike on Siegen Lane right now. Have every right to do so. And i'd be a fricking idiot for doing so, and i can guaranfrickingtee you every single person on this site would call me a dumbass if i ended up dead b/c a car hit me.
I can also call Mike Tyson a fricking pussy if i'm ever face to face with him, and it's completely legal for me to say that to him, and if i get my arse whipped b/c of it he goes to jail, but hey i proved my point b/c i have rights.

We have our rights, but that doesn't excuse you from being a dumbass in how you chose to use them, and having your rights doesn't just automatically prevent other people from breaking the law against you when you're a lawful idiot.

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Posted by FredbullTN

Brentwood, TN

Member since Sep 2023

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Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:10 am to Funky Tide 8

Not arguing right or wrong about this situation, just clarifying this as it’s training. Also not reading the entire thread to see if it’s been mentioned, but anyone with a military background that wasn’t a POG, or anyone that has a police background will tell you that doorway is a fatal funnel. There are quite a few videos on YT of cops getting shot at and/or shot knocking on a door. Knock and move to the side.