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re: Chief's Harrison Butker delivers an unforgettable commencement address

Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:59 pm to
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IVF being the same as euthanasia.


I am not saying they are in the same class but I would guess it's just that these are not "god's will" type things in that people are making choices for other people. IVF is not someone getting pregnant naturally and euthanasia is not someone dying completely naturally

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:23 pm to
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I am not saying they are in the same class but I would guess it's just that these are not "god's will" type things in that people are making choices for other people
If God makes someone infertile and then gets mad when they find a way to get pregnant he can kindly go frick “his will”
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:22 pm to
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am not saying they are in the same class but I would guess it's just that these are not "god's will" type things in that people are making choices for other people. IVF is not someone getting pregnant naturally and euthanasia is not someone dying completely naturally


By this logic, all medicine goes against “God’s Will”.

I guess that’s typical Christian Scientist stuff, but even the staunchest Christian scientist guy could probably find wiggle room to differentiate between that and euthanasia. Hilariously bad form to just lump all that stuff in there in the same sentence, while very likely having members of that same congregation who have either done IVF, have friends that have, or overwhelmingly support the idea

I mean being against IVF is like being against ice cream. Such a lose lose take to have that will not gain you many supporters

Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:21 am to
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I am not saying they are in the same class but I would guess it's just that these are not "god's will" type things in that people are making choices for other people


If IVF isn’t God’s will, why doesn’t he just snap his finger and cause the procedure to fail?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6559 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 3:03 pm to
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I am not saying they are in the same class but I would guess it's just that these are not "god's will" type things in that people are making choices for other people. IVF is not someone getting pregnant naturally and euthanasia is not someone dying completely naturally



ok so by this logic its unnatural to go to the hospital if you are sick
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