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re: GoT S4:E9 "The Watchers On The Wall" BOOK MAESTERS Thread SPOILERS

Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:19 pm to
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thats next week. reread the fricking book. Alister sends Jon to treat with Mance (and kill him) AFTER the battle. Stannis shows up while Jon and Mance are talking and he has no clue whats going on.



The battle lasts like 5 months in the book, and it's clear Jon is doing things on his own accord here instead of being forced by Thorne and Slynt. This episode is still incredibly disappointing.
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:20 pm to
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Seriously, no "STANNIS!!! STANNIS!!!!" Can any reader not say that this episode is an incredible disappointment? Nothing in this episode is good. Even Ygrete's death is completely glossed over. I still have no clue what happened to the Thenn's leader.

I don't think it's fair to criticize this until you see next episode. If they cover what they need to and don't leave stuff out, than who cares if it happens in ep 9 or ep 10?
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:21 pm to
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The battle lasts like 5 months in the book,


what?!? wildings attack from the south, they blow the stairs save the castle. wildings attack from the north - battle enses gate is secured - wildings flee. thorne sends jon to mance. im not sure what you are talking about

Mance even tells Jon he thought the wildings would have had the gate open for them to walk through
This post was edited on 6/8/14 at 9:22 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:21 pm to
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They maintained the high bar that has been set for season 9. Well done.



I don't think so. Seriously, does anyone think this is even in the ballpark of any of the other Episode 9 shows?
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:22 pm to
sure fig
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:23 pm to
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does anyone think this is even in the ballpark of any of the other Episode 9 shows


a step under blackwater but was still a great episode imo
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:23 pm to
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I don't think it's fair to criticize this until you see next episode. If they cover what they need to and don't leave stuff out, than who cares if it happens in ep 9 or ep 10?



Compare this to Blackwater. It's clear they only spent their money for giants and mammoths. That's it. Blackwater was so much better.
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:24 pm to
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they only spent their money for giants and mammoths.


and filming a 35 minute all out assault battle scene. i mean what do you want, man
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:25 pm to
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a step under blackwater but was still a great episode imo



Yep. Pretty much hit almost everything from the books in one way or another. Not sure what the heck OML was expecting.
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:26 pm to
Please write some more letters to D&D about how they can make the show so much better according to you.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:26 pm to
That scene in the courtyard when the camera panned all around the yard to show the fighting with no cuts was awesome.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:28 pm to
Go watch Home Alone , omL. Quit your bitching.
This post was edited on 6/8/14 at 9:29 pm
Posted by TheChosenOne
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:28 pm to
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OMLandshark


Out of curiosity, how did you expect this episode to go?

Outside of them cutting short of Jon meeting Mance and Stannis showing up, it went pretty much like I thought it would go.

I thought they did a great job with the fight scene in the courtyard.



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That scene in the courtyard when the camera panned all around the yard to show the fighting with no cuts was awesome.
This post was edited on 6/8/14 at 9:29 pm
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:28 pm to
how tall is the actor playing Styr my god he was huge

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:30 pm to
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and filming a 35 minute all out assault battle scene. i mean what do you want, man



Blackwater pulled it off with a 2 minute Wildfyre scene. Honestly, what they should have done is intermingled Tyrion escaping and killing Tywin, as well as Stannis coming in (I can't believe I'm saying the later since it's obvious). Seriously, how much better would this episode have been if Stannis came in and Tyrion killed Tywin in it? I really think this may be the worst episode of the series (very easily the worst 9th episode in the series, I can't see an argument that it isn't), and there's nothing good or worthwhile about it. Ygritte's death is completely glossed over and I don't care.
This post was edited on 6/8/14 at 9:32 pm
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:31 pm to
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Seriously, does anyone think this is even in the ballpark of any of the other Episode 9 shows?

Please change the thread title to: GOT S4:E9 "Frick the dialog"

Seriously, I liked this better than "Blackwater". But not as good as the Red Wedding or The Beheading.
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:33 pm to
cutting off to kings landing would have been terrible. this episode needed the battle at the wall. hell they combined 2 big arse battles into one, didn't need to take time away from anything.

theres still an hour left i don't understand your point of view on this at all
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:33 pm to
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Seriously, I liked this better than "Blackwater".


Just from this scene, I don't know how that's possible: LINK
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:34 pm to
well that was a let down.
Posted by pistolsfiring11
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:34 pm to
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a step under blackwater but was still a great episode imo


And Blackwater's the best episode of the series so far. If an episode is even close to that one, then it's fantastic.

Plus I'm glad "nothing happened" in this season's 9th episode. It was getting a little too predictable for the Hodors that some major, series-changing event would happen in episode 9. This battle was obviously important, but compared to what's coming next week it's minor. It'll be nice to not have a 10th episode that is largely just setting the stage for the next season (although some of that will obviously happen).
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