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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:45 am
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14530 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:45 am
I bought in to the changes in practice, the concept of player and coaching management, the profession of "lessons learned" . . . I think a lot of players and the coaches bought in as well.

O spoke of the things he learned and implemented from coaching under Pete Carrol. That's great. I can do that too, but it doesn't make me Pete Carroll. There's a fine line between shorter practices and more film study and playing soft and losing the instinctive play from repetition as well as the stamina.

The old boxing axiom that "every fighter has a plan until he's hit" holds true. The same thing I used to see with Miles, I see X10 with O. The deer in the headlight look and inability to process what to do when your team is in trouble.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt, but his reaction/response post crisis tells me all I need to know. He's tweaked a few things, but he's still the same coach.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25642 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:46 am to
Thank you for admitting it. We need everyone else to come list their name
Posted by Gnarkill
Member since Aug 2017
382 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:49 am to
quote:

I bought in


The BR media and pump machine got to you. It happens.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69095 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:50 am to
quote:

The same thing I used to see with Miles, I see X10 with O. The deer in the headlight look and inability to process what to do when your team is in trouble.


Les has quite a few come from behind wins against good teams. That tells me, he's actually been able to keep them together when facing adversity.

Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34335 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:50 am to
Those of us that got the Ban Hammer for vehemently opposing Orgeron appreciate your penance.
Posted by joemuggs
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
609 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:50 am to
Good post.


Even with miles to me he always seemed to exude confidence even though he was speaking in riddles and sounding like a maniac. I'm surprised at how totally lacking in confidence O seems to be in what he says his tone his body language. Him being unprepared for questions that are obviously coming.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79287 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:52 am to
Orgeron is like the ex-bf or ex-gf that you take back after hearing them say "I've changed for the better."

and then a month back into it, you realize they're right...they have changed...for the worse.

At Ole Miss, he turned small turds into one huge turd.

At LSU, he's turning what used to be a goldmine into a cubic zirconia factory.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22808 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:00 am to
Yeah, I fell for it too. Wasn't excited about the hire, but I liked what I heard/saw from the man. We were duped.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34968 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:02 am to
Has Pete Carroll called Alleva and apologized for telling him to hire O yet?
Posted by cajunbuck
R-KANSAS
Member since Sep 2017
997 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:05 am to
not gonna lie... i went both ways. at first i was adamantly against O.... like not even on the radar, don't discuss this bullshite with me.... and then it happened, and somehow or another i sold myself and made myself believe it was by far the best, and that i was wrong in the beginning, and O was the answer. well... wrong again... i feel like such a jack azz...
Posted by cajunduby
C-Bus
Member since Nov 2012
2251 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:08 am to
quote:

BayouCowboy


You're not alone, I bought in as well.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:08 am to
Kudos to you for admitting. Lets open this up for forgiveness of all honorable O supporters who can admit they were wrong.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7378 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:09 am to
Coach O is working on changing things up as we speak...

Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:14 am to
The problem is you listened to the hype instead of recognizing the obvious. Quit listening to what other people tell you is the truth and look around.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44263 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:14 am to
I was vehemently against the hire. I think I even got banned right when it happened for a bit. I never thought LSU would win anything with him, but I did convince myself that the talent and the rest of the coaching staff were enough to keep the program from going nuclear.

I was wrong.
Posted by Earthquake 88
Mobile
Member since Jan 2010
3022 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:18 am to
I don't know what all this BS about Pete Carroll and easy practices is about. The Seahawks stayed in trouble with the NFL for having too violent of practices. USC didn't play soft for a Pac 10 team when Pete coached there. Those boys played like savages.

I'm with you RB10. I bought into that BS myself. We play soft and it's time to get back to some hitting in practice.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 11:21 am
Posted by The Drizz
The Ville
Member since Jun 2010
1219 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:18 am to
I have to admit, I was in the same boat. I hate that it is happening to our program but it’s like watching a train wreck on reality TV - you can’t turn away, just watch the implosion ensue.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34968 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:19 am to
I think a ton of people bought in with how the bowl game went and with Canada coming in. There was reason to be optimistic. I don't think anyone really thought it would go to shite as fast as it did
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 11:20 am
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:22 am to
Me too
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:27 am to
quote:

I bought in to the changes in practice, the concept of player and coaching management, the profession of "lessons learned" . . . I think a lot of players and the coaches bought in as well.


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