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re: Common plant baw complaints

Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:25 am to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20956 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:25 am to
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Man. I get this all the time. I am usually called in because something isn't working correctly. My first question is always "are you operating/following the design?" Usually it is no.


Just remember contractors usually get exorbitant change orders mid project to change from the original design.

Of course contractor is going to say that every engineered drawing is messed up when they have a new truck waiting for them around every mistake .
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73693 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:37 am to
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My first question is always "are you operating/following the design?" Usually it is no.


Well of course we aren't. We hired your company 10 years ago to modify the equipment. You sold us a part that opened up parameters. That part is obsolete now because there wasn't enough money to maintain support.

Now you will say 'Everyone in the industry has done away with those.' Even though we talk across industry and have peers at many other sites and circuits. We are well aware of the parts limitations, but we are at your mercy to give us the new part at the inflated price so we can start to repeat the process over again.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:41 am to
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You clearly don’t know anything about operations


you can be a good operator and still be ignorant AF about everything else in the world.
Posted by SouthTiger504
Member since Sep 2014
1163 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:10 am to

So, is being ingnorant about everything else in the world a requirement to be an operator?

Will a major like ExxonMobil hire me as one of the top 20 applicants out of 2000 if I don’t come off as ignorant in my interview??

Or, is that ignorance acquired from working the job??
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:35 am to
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Will a major like ExxonMobil hire me as one of the top 20 applicants out of 2000 if I don’t come off as ignorant in my interview??


Sure, they don't care about how much you know about the world. Just operations.

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Or, is that ignorance acquired from working the job??


Generally, the many I have had to deal with stay in their own little social bubble of operators and are pretty closed minded about anything else. I guess it has something to do with the shift work/being on weird hours a lot. I've been there. Glad I got out.

Operators wear hard hats to cover up soft feelings lol
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73693 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:39 am to
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guess it has something to do with the shift work/being on weird hours a lot. I've been there. Glad I got out.


Not everyone can handle it.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3153 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:11 pm to
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Operators wear hard hats to cover up soft feelings
I’m stealing that.
Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7430 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 6:40 pm to
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We ain’t building this sumbitch on paper. We building it in the real world.


But when those big shots are called to make a decision, their knee jerk reaction is to write an RFI to the engineer to tell them what to do!
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7864 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:01 pm to
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Engineers don’t know shite.


quite the opposite.

i’m convinced those bastards sit around the bar laughing about the fricked up arse design some poor baw now has to deal with.

i’ve seen designs that had to be done intentionally by someone with a sick sense of humor.
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 8:06 pm to
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