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re: Modly SHOULD get the full time job as Navy Secretary

Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:50 pm to
Posted by Pechon
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Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:50 pm to
Capt. Crozier decided to take his concerns outside his assigned chain of command. Rather than work with his superior or even take the risk to buck that person is completely irresponsible and risked the security of the ship and it's crew.

That's what we needed, the media to get hold and spout to the world due to their own biases that one of our aircraft carriers are compromised. Why? Because frick our servicemembers it's a chance to dunk on this administration. This is a national security issue that should have been dealt with internally. But no, Cpt Crozier decided to act irresponsibly and unbecoming of his command.

Again, there is a good fricking reason why we're preached to about OPSEC. I've sat in command and staff briefings. Health and welfare of troops are classified for a fricking reason. So our enemies don't know when we're weak.

So that's what we want to support now? Don't like how things are going? frick it, let's leak it to the press. Ol Sarge giving you a tough time? Leak it to the press! Don't want to go on a patrol? Leak it! Don't want to do a sea tour? LEAK!

The undisciplined actions he has taken and the undisciplined cheering for him speaks volumes. You're a leader, not a dad. Actions can get your subordinates killed. That's all we needed was one of our aircraft carriers attacked now that our enemies know it had been compromised. Capt Crozier decided not to use the proper channels and paid the price. I feel no sympathy for him.

Edit: Why I feel strongly about this is because I'm sick and fricking tired of officers who are more concerned of their own careers over the men and women who serve under them. I saw this when I was a naive soldier and NCO. I was in when assclowns like Wesley Clark wanted to start a fricking world war over a shitty airport. He knew the proper way to do this. Again, Crozier wanted to be a prima donna and send out a blast email. frick him.

Edit 2: I'm not saying all officers are like this, they're few and far between. Many officers I've served under would also find this reprehensible. They cared about their troops, not being an activist.



This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 12:04 am
Posted by monsterballads
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/7/20 at 1:22 pm to
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Actions can get your subordinates killed.


The captain chose the well being of his crew over the mission and paid the price. He obviously thought it was worth it.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:17 am to
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Pechon


What I got from your post is that you value authority, protocol, and PR over truth and human life.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35243 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:07 am to
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This is a national security issue that should have been dealt with internally.
quote:

Actions can get your subordinates killed.
I hadn’t actually read his letter, but after reading your post, I figured there must be something crazy in it. I don’t know what I was expecting, but I wasn’t expecting it to be something resembling a grant proposal with detailed plans and evidence to justify these plans.

I mean the whole “chain of command,” idea with something like this (as opposed to just as a standard process flow) is nonsense to me since it’s basically the opposite of our nation’s and what has made us successful (e.g., getting results; liberty; authority can be questioned); however, I get that this sort of weak mindset in society is believe to somehow “not weak” in the military. So I get that people are aware of the consequences of straying off the path that we told to follow.

That being said, the content of the letter itself supports any of your histrionics, but I guess your an ideal individual for that mineset.
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