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re: VP Pence says Utah Gov Herbert diverted 1200 state employees to conduct "Contact Tracing"

Posted on 4/25/20 at 5:18 am to
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 5:18 am to
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Contact Tracing seems like a colossal waste of effort. By the time you found out someone was infected, especially in an urban area, they would have interacted with too many people for it to be at all useful.

It’s also disturbing from a freedom and privacy standpoint.


Yeah, like its not so much of a disturbance of privacy when the coroner splits open your bodies' breastplate and cracks open your ribcage as he/she performs their mandated autopsy....


Contact tracing - like asymptomatic preventative mass testing - was REALLY effective early on in the initial stages of COVID-19 spread, but of course Trump screwed that pooch into the ground.

Utah is one of the bottom states in the U.S. in terms of cases and deaths, so perhaps the spread is not already a foregone conclusion there.

But for ALL states, it's already consensus medical opinion that increased testing will be needed for the re-opening of local economies throughout the nation. Businesses and community leaders MUST have knowledge that if they re-open businesses, they won't be sending healthy people into close-quarter activities with others who are infected with the COVID-19.

Contact tracing is easy, simple, and is a system that has been used now for decades. Unlike past flu epidemics, or really any other past viral pandemic outbreak, the country is largely in a shut-down mode right now, with most states conducting various stay-at-home and social distancing practices. Practices again, that we have not really ever done before.

This actually makes your above opinion - like 99.999% of opinions posted on this forum - largely ignorant and uneducated. As people are actively practicing social distancing, it currently makes it easier and more effective to contact trace for the COVID-19 now than it has to contact trace for any other past virus.

People who are sick or have been infected with the COVID-19 in recent past, are much better able to list any and all other people that they have been in contact with in recent days, even weeks. For past flu seasons, as an example, people sick with the flu continued to go to work, go shopping at malls, and socialize with others. They have a harder time listing all of those people.

Likewise, if you did come into contact with someone else, and you gave them the COVID-19, THAT person was less likely to then mix and mingle with others, because they are also practicing social distancing right now.

So the chances of rapid infection is much lesser right now than with any past viruses, and therefore the ability to more accurately trace contacts is much greater.....
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 5:19 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19410 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 5:22 am to
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Risk of death


That doesn’t bother me.

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As people are actively practicing social distancing, it currently makes it easier and more effective to contact trace for the COVID-19 now than it has to contact trace for any other past virus.


The incubation period is what, up to two weeks?

Let’s pretend I’m living in NYC again. I could interact with dozens of people in a given day. Who interact with dozens more. Who interact with dozens more.

In a small community that cycle will eventually end. But in a city. It won’t.
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 5:28 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 5:46 am to
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Contact tracing is easy, simple, and is a system that has been used now for decades.

Really? Then why would a smaller state like Utah need to divert 1200 state employees to conduct it?

Antibody testing is the scientific baseline study (i.e., what percentage of Utahns have already contracted COVID-19 and self-cured?)

There are no reports that Utah has spent a nickel on baseline antibody testing, but Utah is All In with 1200 employees for Contact Tracing (which is likely scientiffically futile at this point - unless you enjoy interrogating tens of thousands of people - then it is great!)

Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65406 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:11 am to
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Yeah, like its not so much of a disturbance of privacy when the coroner splits open your bodies' breastplate and cracks open your ribcage as he/she performs their mandated autopsy....


You’re fricking stupid as frick. People like you provide no path forward for this country.
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