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re: Looks like Jacob Blake has a history of pulling guns on people

Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:13 pm to
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It's easy to sit here and say they shouldn't have shot him.



When he opened the door, they had to shoot him. However, he should not have been allowed to get that far.

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Tased or even tackled him would've drawn the exact same outrage because that is where we are as a country at this point and time. And that is an undeniable fact.



I don't give a damn about the outrage.

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We also jump to conclusion so freaking quickly and we do not know the whole story.



I agree.
This post was edited on 8/24/20 at 2:17 pm
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45137 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:15 pm to
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So every time someone doesn't comply he/she gets shot?



It certainly doesn't help. If you want to fight an arrest, do it in court, not on the street.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99520 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:19 pm to
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Was he considering college in the fall?


He had narrowed his choices down to Harvard, Yale, and barber college.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:19 pm to
It really is astounding that something like this just keeps happening all things considered,and then in a battle ground state
Posted by walley tux
DFW
Member since May 2020
794 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:38 pm to
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So you're not going to answer the question.



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So every time someone doesn't comply he/she gets shot?


YES!



i suppose your answer is to give them one of these!

Posted by HughsWorkPhone
Member since Sep 2017
1154 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 2:52 pm to
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The history of EVERY guy that's been shot is googled and posted well before that of the cops.


Why does every guy that’s been shot have a history? See a pattern?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:12 pm to
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3 cops had him the ground, he should not have been allowed to get up without being handcuffed. That would have eliminated him from getting to the door. When he opened the door, they had to shoot him.


Have you ever tried to hold down a grown man?

We had a guy that used to work for us and he was about 5'5" 165 and it took 4 grown men to hold him in a chair long enough to shrinkwrap him to it.

The unwilling tend to put up a fight, this isn't a movie and they have to worry about not violating his rights while cuffing him.

But none of it's the perps fault.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:39 pm to
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Have you ever tried to hold down a grown man?



Excuses
If 3 of them can't do it, get another job.

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We had a guy that used to work for us and he was about 5'5" 165 and it took 4 grown men to hold him in a chair long enough to shrinkwrap him to it.



Were the 4 men trained to do that? The cops were trained to do this. Stop making excuses for trained professionals.


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The unwilling tend to put up a fight, this isn't a movie and they have to worry about not violating his rights while cuffing him.



Were they trained to do it?

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But none of it's the perps fault.



BS.

He was at fault and opening the door was the sole reason he was shot.

The cops can be held accountable for allowing him to get that far.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:48 pm to
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It certainly doesn't help. If you want to fight an arrest, do it in court, not on the street.



I agree.

Cops and perps make bad decisions in the heat of the moment.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:48 pm to
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The cops can be held accountable for allowing him to get that far.


Cool

What's the punishment for letting a perp slip away from you because it has to be less than manslaughter?

Some shite on your permanent record? DEAL! Now everyone go home.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 4:10 pm to
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What's the punishment for letting a perp slip away from you because it has to be less than manslaughter?



I don't know what the punishment should be for that. When he opened the door, they had a legitimate reason to fear for their lives. At that point that shooting was justified.

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Some shite on your permanent record? DEAL! Now everyone go home.



A bad mark on their permanent record is not punishment for a cop. All 3 of them were scared as hell the moment he got up. they should not be cops. Fear leads to bad decisions.
Posted by Big Daddy Kayne
Member since May 2020
419 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 4:41 pm to
I'm starting to be convinced that these people are actually demonically possessed. They know they'll be shot if they don't comply but do it anyway. Defies all reason.
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
1838 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 5:02 pm to
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So every time someone doesn't comply he/she gets shot?


Why does a certain group of fine, upstanding citizens have the innate inability to follow directions from the police?

I don’t care if you’re black. I don’t care if you’re poor. I do care if you’re a criminal, and I applaud the police for putting some bullets in this piece of shite that refuses to follow orders.

Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18128 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 5:28 pm to
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So every time someone doesn't comply he/she gets shot?


The odds go way, way up. You don’t get that?
Posted by phatcat
Los Angeles
Member since Dec 2003
3382 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 5:45 pm to
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Can you name an instance in which an unarmed guy with no criminal background, who obeyed the officers lawful commands, didn't resist arrest, was killed?


Breonna Taylor, a 26-year-old African-American emergency medical technician, was fatally shot by Louisville Metro Police Department (LMPD) officers Jonathan Mattingly, Brett Hankison, and Myles Cosgrove on March 13, 2020. Three plainclothes LMPD officers executing a no-knock search warrant issued for a different apartment looking for a perp who did not live at her address and was already in police custody at the time of the raid entered her apartment in Louisville, Kentucky and commenced to spraying Breonna with bullets as she lay in her bed, killing her and perforating the adjacent apartments through the walls narrowly missing her neighbors in the process.

Don't worry though, the three police officers look to be exonerated in what the local police union is defending as a justifiable shooting...

Edited to add:
To be fair, she was not a guy, and she was never given the opportunity to follow orders before she was shot to death.

This post was edited on 8/24/20 at 5:47 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
18066 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 5:48 pm to
I suspect that if you are looking for trouble, you couldn’t go wrong with a bar called the “Brass Monkey! That Funky Monkey...”

Posted by Redbonebandit
Member since Dec 2019
1064 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 5:49 pm to
Daniel shaver was shot while on his hands and knees begging for his life. But that doesn't fit your narrative does it.
Posted by phatcat
Los Angeles
Member since Dec 2003
3382 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 5:56 pm to
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Daniel shaver was shot while on his hands and knees begging for his life. But that doesn't fit your narrative does it.


You got me there, sport. I didn't know I had a narrative, but now that you have established in your mind what my narrative is, how about you let me in on what you have determined it to be so that we both can play your game.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 6:03 pm to
Your game is about color.

That will be a fun game to play.
Posted by texn
Pronouns: Y'All/Y'All's
Member since Nov 2019
3520 posts
Posted on 8/24/20 at 6:10 pm to
What are your qualifications for being able to determine how LEOs should do their jobs? Current or former LEO yourself? Any LE training? Play GTA on the Xbox in your momma's house?

I think any person shouldn't be able to criticize the actions of LEOs unless they do at least one ride along with a LEO. Many police departments have ride along programs that allow civilians to accompany police on their patrols and see what their job is really all about (or at least they did pre-COVID). Of course, most of thee programs require that the civilian must have a clean criminal record to participate, so I guess that disqualifies 90% of the bitchers. For the other 10%, what do you have to lose?: its entertaining, you might learn something and, if nothing else, you could spend the time telling the police officers how they should be doing their jobs.
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