re: UPDATE: Big Ten coaches meeting on a call right now. "real possibility FB back this fall"

Trust nothing from the B10 until Warren is gone.

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Buts it’s more fun to yell about politics.

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Thousands of football teams are NOW playing across the mid-west - high school, middle school, youth leagues.

Not political? Gimme a break. LOL

What does the science say? NOTE: the term "children", for this post, are all younger than 15.

1) For starters, in the entire world, as of August 12, 2020, almost 10 months after the first reported case of Covid19, there is not 1 documented case throughout the entire world of a child passing the virus to an adult. There isn't a single reported case on the planet of this. Not one, not after the extensive contact tracing and peer reviewed studies conducted here and abroad. Every single study, no matter the source or politics, has concluded at worst "kids don't play a significant role of spreading the virus".

2) This has actually been a great surprise, as the first thing that was shutdown was schools. It was assumed that like the common cold, influenza, and a host of other virus' that children would be the source of the biggest spread of Covid19. Yet every study and analysis of the actual facts (10 months of data) contradicts that assumption and narrative. For whatever reason, the youth react opposite than was expected to Covid19 than every other strain in the coronavirus/common cold and influenza family.

3) What the hard data does show is that influenza is 7x more deadly to children than Covid19. There have been less than 50 children Covid19 deaths in the US over the last 8 months. Through the first 8 months each of the last 10 years, the number is exponentially higher with the flu (on average 511 flu deaths per year in same age group, or 341 thru first 8 months).

4) The average age of all Covid-19 deaths in the USA is 78. That's including deaths called "Covid-19" that are presumed (no positive test for virus), including self inflicted gunshots, drug overdoses, head on collisions, and all manner of frickery.

5) Influenza death rate is estimated at 0.1% - 7x higher than the rate for children under 15, and on par with young adults under 25. Simply, unless the immune system is severely compromised (i.e. childhood cancer, morbid obesity, diabetes) Covid-19 is less lethal than influenza for all those college age and younger.

6) For all ages under 25, this year alone, Covid-19 isn't even in the top 25 for cause of death (I couldn't find a more extensive list, like say top 50).

7) All combined Covid-19 deaths under the age of 65 are less than the deaths in the 65-74 range alone, less than the 75-84 age range alone, less than the 85+ age range alone. Simply, there are 4x more deaths over the age of 65 than all combined under 65.

8) Raw data alone, no study needed, demonstrably illustrates Covid-19 is nowhere near as lethal as influenza and a host of other causes of death we count as "normal" for those under the age of 65.

9) Almost every country has reopened schools. There are a few notables who never locked down anything, never required a mask, and just lived responsibly. Their amount of cases and deaths are less per capita than countries of the opposite extreme.

10) The potency of Covid-19 is decreasing. Many epidemiologist here and abroad believe it will die out by October. The overwhelming majority of youth under the age of 25 who contracted Covid-19 had either very mild symptoms or no symptoms at all, and that was true back in April and May when it was most potent.

There is zero scientific and medical reason to cancel fall sports. Argue all you want, but be a gentleman and bring hard statistical facts to the table. Unless you can show why this is more lethal than influenza, unless you can show it is more dangerous than influenza to all under the age of 25, then actual science and hard data do not demand mitigation methods more drastic than what is already being done at universities that have re-opened.

There was zero need for those other conferences to make their decisions now. And for the record, positive tests have zero bearing on potency and effect.

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This link compares covid19 vs pneumonia vs influenza deaths by age group. Note 1- data in this cdc chart starts on Feb 1, 2020. Note 2 - there were more flu deaths to children (and every other age group) in January alone than what you see in the period of February through August. CDC makes it difficult to search that, as it is very revealing. However, google will show you plenty of articles before the Covid-19 fear porn narrative started. Here's one from CNN LINK in February that cites a record breaking 105 children have died from flu in 2020, but the do not give an age range. Suffice to say, this number is under the age of 18.

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With this link, you CAN see the flu deaths by age group for an entire year. Simply click the year and view the chart. Use your calculator, and as I stated in the OP, you will see the average flu deaths for children from 2010 thru 2019 (actually a 10 year average) is 511.

Being that THOSE specific figures were the crux of my argument - that the flu, on average, is 7 times more deadly to children than Covid-19 and we don't shut down schools are universities for that risk, I won't do the work for you on everything else.

We live in the age of information. I've given you hard facts from the CDC's website, and from CNN - a news source I can wipe my arse with because they are very partisan and quickly abandon these kinds of facts when the narrative changes to suit their political agenda -- notice, they aren't reporting this.

So here's more facts. You are more than free to find them on CDC or worldmeters or whatever source you are comfortable with. The point is for you to stop listening to the mainstream media's propaganda, and actually look at the data - research for yourself. You can easily verify the following:

According to the CDC, the average number of total deaths in the US per day in 2020 is 7,434. In 2017, we averaged more than 7,700 deaths per day. We have a pandemic that is so dangerous you need a test to find out whether you have it or have had it, and we are averaging less deaths per day than an average year.

In the hotspot of Texas, from through July 14, there were 3,322 Covid-19 deaths. In 2019 there were 10,020 flu deaths, and in 2018 there were 11,917. You can confirm this on CDC or on Texas Department of State Health Services, or find it on Twitter and other places very easy.

I can go on and on and on, but for the sake of brevity, I won't, as I understand some people have a problem with reading and comprehension and logic and would rather regurgitate the fake news they get from the nazi propaganda machine ABC/CNN/MSNBC/CBS/____ who have been completely and shamefully dishonest, flat out lied, and are the biggest source of misinformation, along with their colluding Twitter, Google, Facebook, and YouTube

Hint - and you can verify this easily enough - all of the MSM sources listed above, as well the CDC - they've all donated combined billions of dollars since 2015 to one of the political parties. At least 98% of all their donations have gone to ONE party. This is public record. They aren't reporting the facts, they aren't neutral, and they aren't hiding it.

So if we are going to talk of misinformation, I am giving you links to CDC - hard facts and data you can easily verify yourself. Facts that taken quite logically, destroy the narrative. Will you follow the data and the science, or are you married to a narrative?

For somebody that's 100% done with LSU, you sure do spend a lot of time on this board.

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Solid melt

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You seem to be as confused about what a melt is as you do about what being 100% done means.

What he posted was what every last one of the sheeple need to be informed about. I have said from DAY ONE we shouldn't have closed, cancelled, postponed jack shite over covid. The numbers compared to other diseases illustrate perfectly how much of a nothing burger this is.

For the slow and bleeding hearts. Yes, covid has killed people. The LEGITIMATE number is very much up for debate though. We don't shut the blanking country down for the flu. We don't institute 5mph no tolerance speed limits to eliminate virtually all traffic deaths. Life ain't worth living that way. This has been political from the jump.

no shite. I just said that because it was long. try to have a sense of humor..