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Complete lawn re-do. Any way to firm up the ground before re-sodding?

Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:46 am
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43173 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:46 am
Obviously raising the lawn elevation and grading will improve soft lawn syndrome. But can you mix other material like red clay in with sand when prepping before sod installation so that lawn stays firmer in wintertime (anytime really)?

Also - after killing entire lawn, do you strip it off or leave the dead lawn underneath new one?

Any other do's and dont's, please let me know.


TIA
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6223 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:13 am to
A soft lawn would be a rarity. Where are you located?

Always remove the grass. Whether or not you rent a sod cutter or round up and rake you want to lay the new sod on bare dirt.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43173 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 2:40 pm to
I'm in Mandeville. In winter time, my lawn is quite soft.


Regarding removing the grass, I didn't explain fully. I plan on adding several inches of sand/soil so I didnt know if old grass could be buried or needed to come out. New sod will be touching dirt for sure.

Thank you sir.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6223 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 4:20 pm to
If it is dry durning the summer I wouldn’t mess with it too much. Especially if you plan on bringing in new dirt. I have a spot that stays wet for up a week after a decent rain. It only happens during the winter.

I’d just round up the lawn and wouldn’t worry about raking up the dead stuff. Wouldn’t want some zombie grass hanging on and fighting through.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43173 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 6:29 am to
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I’d just round up the lawn and wouldn’t worry about raking up the dead stuff. Wouldn’t want some zombie grass hanging on and fighting through.
Ok sounds. good. Regarding the new sand/soil, last time I added some fill it was full of weed seeds or whatever. The areas I filled became overrun with various weeds. Any way to prevent that?
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
21535 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 6:32 am to
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last time I added some fill it was full of weed seeds or whatever

What kind of "fill" was it?

I think you would need to use some good top soil and/or mason sand (potentially both mixed together) but I'll defer to the experts (ronk, Craw, etc.). Avoid river silt / sand at all costs.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18982 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 6:41 am to
Use masonry sand to level out and you can sprinkle a thin layer of compost, peat moss, or garden soil under the sod.

As others have said stay away from getting a giant truck full of river silt.
Posted by Finnish
Member since Nov 2021
425 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 6:46 am to
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As others have said stay away from getting a giant truck full of river silt.


Unless converting lawn to torpedo grass.
Posted by chrome1007
Toledo Bend
Member since Dec 2023
112 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 3:14 pm to
I’ve always removed the old grass.
Not sure what kind of soil you got, but stick with good top soil from a reputable landscaper or materials yard.
If you want to compact your topsoil, you can rent a jumping jack, compactor from Home Depot tool rental.Its a good idea if you want to put sand on top of your topsoil for drainage.
Hope this helps.
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