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O deserves a lot more credit than most here give him.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:39 am
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:39 am
I was 100% against the O hire. Left me make that abundantly clear. Now that that's been stated, I'm going to defend O. Most here bash him every single chance you get. I don't understand why though. Is he not making the changes that most of us got so angrily frustrated with Miles for not making? Would we have ever seen the RPO under Miles? Hell no. O's making some very progressive decisions towards bringing our passing game into the modern era, and by hiring a young, inventive mind like Joe Brady, we may just be witnessing an era where LSU actually sets the standard for passing across college football. I've got to say, I'm pleasantly surprised, and I'm glad to see we have a coach that makes a strong effort to fix something when it's broken.
With that said, I'm still remaining cautiously optimistic. Right now, it's all just a bunch of off-season chatter. It's clear that the effort is there though. I'm feeling extremely positive for the future of our Tigers. This is the first time I've felt that under O. I'm finally on his wagon.
With that said, I'm still remaining cautiously optimistic. Right now, it's all just a bunch of off-season chatter. It's clear that the effort is there though. I'm feeling extremely positive for the future of our Tigers. This is the first time I've felt that under O. I'm finally on his wagon.
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:42 am to Laman1978
Saying we want to wait and see what happens with this new offense is not bashing the guy. It's a perfectly logical train of thought.
I don't know why some on here insist that he be given credit for things before they've come to fruition.
I don't know why some on here insist that he be given credit for things before they've come to fruition.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 9:47 am
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:42 am to Laman1978
Some of the posters here have had some sort of personal grudge against him since he was hired and I don’t understand why.
Even if you didn’t want him hired, how exactly is it his fault that he was hired? Should he have turned down the job?
Even if you didn’t want him hired, how exactly is it his fault that he was hired? Should he have turned down the job?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:42 am to Laman1978
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Is he not making the changes that most of us got so angrily frustrated with Miles for not making?
Who is the current offensive coordinator?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:45 am to Laman1978
It's just the same narrative year in and year out, even with Miles. New offense this new offense that. I'll believe it when I see it work at Texas. Until then, the jury is still out. But yes, he's recruiting well. But let's pump the brakes on the offense until it's displayed
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:45 am to ProjectP2294
Most asses on this site act like O owes them money or something, ridiculous.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:46 am to Goldrush25
quote:Obviously you didn't read my whole post. I too am taking a wait and see approach. He still deserves credit for the changes he's made over the last couple of years to remedy where we're weak. It hasn't always worked, but at least he's trying new things. Miles never did.
Saying we want to wait and see what happens with this new offense is not bashing the guy. It's a perfectly logical train of thought.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 9:56 am
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:47 am to Laman1978
I don't think Ensminger is the guy to change this offense. We hear this talk every year about how the offense finally looks good. I'll believe it when I see it.
I will be much more positive about this hire if O is able to develop QBs we recruit and stop relying on transfers from other programs.
I will be much more positive about this hire if O is able to develop QBs we recruit and stop relying on transfers from other programs.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:48 am to Goldrush25
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Saying we want to wait and see what happens with this new offense is not bashing the guy. It's a perfectly logical train of thought.
Okay. But is there any circumstance where you would give the man credit? Some of you move the goal posts where the man can do nothing right.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:50 am to I-59 Tiger
I and others have given him plenty of credit.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:50 am to mrPresident
quote:Trust me, the brakes are pumped, but this just isn't completely true. O had made significant changes to the offense since taking over. Has it always worked? Nope, but at least he's made changes. Miles CLEARLY never made changes, and it always showed. It was the same power running based offense, year in and out, and there were obviously no significant changes even attempted to be made to the offense.
It's just the same narrative year in and year out, even with Miles
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:50 am to Laman1978
Orgeron could win 10 championships here and I will still contest that it was a bad hire. Because it was. But I hope he continues to do well here.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:52 am to Chimlim
quote:I don't either, but I believe in Joe Brady. Sean Payton has boasted about JB on several occasions, and he's too much of an a-hole to just cherish anyone. JB is the real deal, and the man knows passing.
I don't think Ensminger is the guy to change this offense
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:52 am to sweetwaterbilly
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Orgeron could win 10 championships here and I will still contest that it was a bad hire. Because it was. But I hope he continues to do well here.
The issue comes in when people let the fact that they didn’t want him hired to begin with affect their entire view of the program and him as a head coach. Confirmation bias.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:53 am to sweetwaterbilly
WTF does that even mean?
If he wins 10 championship I’m going to say it was a pretty good hire
If he wins 10 championship I’m going to say it was a pretty good hire
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 10:06 am
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:53 am to sweetwaterbilly
quote:I agree with this, but what's done is done. He didn't deserve the job, but he's doing a good job. frick Alleva, but I like O.
Orgeron could win 10 championships here and I will still contest that it was a bad hire
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:54 am to Laman1978
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Most here bash him every single chance you get
Not true. There are like maybe 2-3 posters on here that give him absolutely zero credit and will always bash him. That's just the nature of this. There were small groups that would never, ever give Les a shred of credit either. Can't make everyone happy.
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Is he not making the changes that most of us got so angrily frustrated with Miles for not making? Would we have ever seen the RPO under Miles? Hell no.
Credit to O and E for seemingly at least trying to make some changes. I couldn't care less what changes, if any, are made so long as the offense improves significantly on the field. Frankly, Les didn't need to reinvent the wheel, just needed to tweak our offensive scheme for modern times a bit, but he wouldn't.
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With that said, I'm still remaining cautiously optimistic. Right now, it's all just a bunch of off-season chatter. It's clear that the effort is there though. I'm feeling extremely positive for the future of our Tigers. This is the first time I've felt that under O. I'm finally on his wagon.
I agree with most of this. I just can't throw a parade for O just yet until I see actual significant improvement on the offensive side of the ball. I don't think that's unreasonable.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 9:59 am
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:56 am to sweetwaterbilly
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Orgeron could win 10 championships here and I will still contest that it was a bad hire.
Just went you think the stupidity on this site can't get any worse...
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:57 am to Laman1978
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He still deserves credit for the changes he's made over the last couple of years to remedy where we're weak. It hasn't always worked, but at least he's trying new things. Miles never did.
I guess this is where the rub is. I don't think you deserve credit just for changing stuff up.
Change can be a good thing, but why are major changes being made every year? To me, that's not the sign of someone being innovative and forward thinking.
Look at the specific circumstances as to how the change has come about. We hired Canada and handcuffed his offense. Then he hires someone who everyone knew would be a disaster. Now he's hiring an assistant to that same guy. I see the changes that have occurred under this coach as someone is panicking, indecisive or a mix of the two.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:57 am to ProjectP2294
quote:In name, Steve Ensminger, but Joe Brady is who I'm excited about.
Who is the current offensive coordinator?
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