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re: Why not let Herring start from here on out?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:57 am to LSBoosie
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:57 am to LSBoosie
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If Herring wasn't available to finish the game yesterday, how much confidence do you have that we win?
Medium, 55-60%
Based on the level of our opponent.
But if he isnt available sunday its probably because he is used saturday and that likely means a win there instead
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:20 am to josh336
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But if he isnt available sunday its probably because he is used saturday and that likely means a win there instead
Or he was used on Friday like he has been for the majority of the year. So we win on Friday, lose on Saturday, and have no pitching left on Sunday. That's literally how it has been for the majority of SEC play. I hope you aren't expecting us to have a 10 run rule, 7 inning complete game every Friday.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:25 am to TigerCub
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We did not save him for Sunday. Had LSU taken the lead in the 8th or 9th inning on Saturday, who do you think would have come in the game?
Don’t know and don’t care. My whole point is that we were able to win that series because we didn’t have to use Herring prior to Sunday and he was able to go out and give us 5 innings of scoreless baseball. If we were to have used him for 2 or 3 innings on Friday or Saturday, he isn’t going out there and giving you 5 innings on Sunday.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:42 am to lowhound
He is too valuable to use as we are now. To secure a win that should be in hand.
I am not sure we have any one or any combination that would hold a three or four run lead for four innings
I am not sure we have any one or any combination that would hold a three or four run lead for four innings
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:47 am to tigerfoot
but isn’t the whole point of the TBD on sunday to see who we have left?
and Herring was left.
and Herring was left.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:08 pm to lowhound
It’s past time to call him up for a starter roll. You leave him in the pen to call in, you’re trying to piece together wins with an already shotty record. He may be the answer. Hole man needs to find that gear he had early on. Mizzou was a terrible hitting team coming in.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:25 pm to Sarge
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Hole man needs to find that gear he had early on. Mizzou was a terrible hitting team coming in.
a week ago he wen 5.2 without giving up a run (I thjnk Ack let his runners score so he did get 2 ER)
he’s just kinda inconsistent.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:28 pm to lowhound
He might from now on out.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:29 pm to SammyTiger
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I thjnk Ack let his runners score so he did get 2 ER
We actually don't have anyone that's been great at stranding inherited runners.
Even as good as Herring has been, he's had issues there as well.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:15 pm to LSBoosie
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He's too important to not save for Sundays. We have to win every series from here on out
I don’t know what team you’ve been watching but this one will likely NEED Herring in order to win fri or Sat.
Obviously, you try and save Herring. If you are up 3 or down a couple, or if it’s too early in the game, then going to the freshman makes sense.
But if it’s a 1 run game, it’s Herring and it should be Herring.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:16 pm to SammyTiger
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but we literally did just that.
No we didn’t. Jump pitched a complete game and Saturday we were down by 4 when Holman left.
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I get having him available Game 1 or 2 if needed, but if he gets to sunday why let someone else start?
That’s a different question.
But I like Ack than Herring. Herring isn’t going to pitch a full game.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:31 pm to moneyg
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I don’t know what team you’ve been watching but this one will likely NEED Herring in order to win fri or Sat.
I’ve been watching all year. This team has not won a single series except for the one in which Herring did not pitch until Sunday. We have to win literally every series from here on out if we want to have a chance at making the postseason. The only reason i would pitch Herring before Sunday would be if we had already won game 1 and are up at the end of game 2 and need to close it out.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:52 pm to SammyTiger
quote:good point
but isn’t the whole point of the TBD on sunday to see who we have left? and Herring was left.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:47 pm to LSBoosie
Nope, but if he needs to throw 4 innings in a 1-2 run game friday night to get us a win, then so be it. You cant tell me you trust anyone else to hold the rope in that spot. Or maybe jump can get us through 7 eventually and then we may only need griffin for 1-2 friday, then he is available sunday
Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:08 pm to LSBoosie
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Or he was used on Friday like he has been for the majority of the year.
So if you don't use him on Friday, what's the guarantee we win that one.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:18 pm to LSBoosie
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Don’t know and don’t care. My whole point is that we were able to win that series because we didn’t have to use Herring prior to Sunday and he was able to go out and give us 5 innings of scoreless baseball. If we were to have used him for 2 or 3 innings on Friday or Saturday, he isn’t going out there and giving you 5 innings on Sunday.
And that’s not important if a game you needed Herring in order to win in on Fri or Sat turns into a loss.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:48 pm to TigerCub
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So if you don't use him on Friday, what's the guarantee we win that one.
There is no guarantee that this LSU team wins ANY game.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:51 pm to moneyg
It is important. Any game can turn into a loss. The pitching staff isn’t that good. You have to win 2/3 every single weekend. We have 2 total pitchers that have consistently performed in SEC play, that’s it. If you think that the best way to win 2/3 is to have your two best pitchers both pitch in the same game, then so be it. I don’t agree.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 3:54 pm to josh336
I just don’t understand how you think continuing to do the thing that has lost us every series is the way to go instead of doing the thing that just won us our first series.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:02 pm to LSBoosie
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I’ve been watching all year. This team has not won a single series except for the one in which Herring did not pitch until Sunday
We won the series because Herring didn't HAVE to pitch until Sunday.
We had 3 SEC wins heading into this weekend. Guess who got the win or save in all 3 wins? Until this weekend, we've lost every SEC game he didn't pitch.
This weekend, Jump pitched a 7 inning complete game to break the streak...and then Herring delivered another win.
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We have to win literally every series from here on out if we want to have a chance at making the postseason. The only reason i would pitch Herring before Sunday would be if we had already won game 1 and are up at the end of game 2 and need to close it out.
So, if you had a 1 run lead in the 7th on Fri, who are you turning it over to?
And, if you lost that game, and find yourself with a 1 run lead in the 7th on Saturday, who are you turning it over to?
Any idea what our bullpen ERA is in the SEC for guys not named Herring?
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