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re: Would like to know why Anderson started over Herring
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:33 pm to LSBoosie
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:33 pm to LSBoosie
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I’m going to refute this. We didn’t “have” to use Anderson. We got the last 24 outs using guys not named Anderson and gave up 2 runs.
Fair enough, but it's more semantics. I should have said "we were always going to use Anderson," and left out the "have to" part. But your sentence about us getting the last 24 outs only giving up 2 runs seems to suggest your issue more that Anderson pitched at all more so than the order. Which is fair, I guess. But Herring could have started and goes 5 perfect innings, and I don't think 5 runs was winning this game.
This team is just not very good. It sucks, but it is what it is. Blame Jay for the construction of the team, but all these in-season and in-game criticisms are a bit ridiculous. For us to win games, he has to not only push all the right buttons, he has to press them all in exactly the right order. Just too much of an ask in a game as unpredictable as baseball.
We're just not that good. 5 runs in a Game 3 against the worst team in the SEC the last weekend of April AT THE BOX? We're just not that good, and Jay's gonna have to take some gambles along the way. Starting Anderson was one of those gambles. Didn't work out. But starting Herring would have been a gamble on the back end, too.
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:34 pm to LSBoosie
Only thing I can come up with is Herring has a certain routine he’s very comfortable with coming in being a reliever compared to actually starting. I don’t get it either you need a sweep bigly right now at this point in the season, start the pitcher that’s been the most consistent for you all year long.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:34 pm to LSBoosie
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Also, starting him today wouldn’t have kept him from continuing to be a reliever if that’s what they want.
You don’t know this. We all watched the exact same thing happen with Matty Ott a decade ago. He started a game against Alabama I believe, got shelled and was never the same. This isn’t a video game. Pitchers have routines and schedules and extensive prep for the role their accustomed to.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:46 pm to Hot Carl
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But your sentence about us getting the last 24 outs only giving up 2 runs seems to suggest your issue more that Anderson pitched at all more so than the order.
Eh I don’t necessarily have a problem with him pitching. Even though he has been one of our worst pitchers in SEC play, he has been good in the midweek. I don’t think it has been good enough to have him starting in game 3’s when your best pitcher hasn’t pitch at all that weekend. I would much rather have to figure out have to hold a 2 or 3 run lead for the last 4 innings rather than be down 5-0 heading into the 2nd inning.
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But Herring could have started and goes 5 perfect innings, and I don't think 5 runs was winning this game.
I don’t think anything is a guarantee with this team. I’m just saying based on where we are in the season, and what is required to make the postseason, I think starting Herring in game 3 is the best strategy. That’s my opinion and I’m stating why I think that. I know others disagree and they have their reasons too.
I agree that this just simply isn’t that good. I think Jay could do everything “right” for the rest of the year and we still would make the postseason because we just aren’t good enough.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:49 pm to DBG
That’s fine, but you don’t know that he can’t handle it either. He has started 1 game at LSU. No one knows how he would do as a starter. Just because it happened with Matty Ott a decade ago doesn’t mean it is guaranteed to happen with Herring too. There have been pitchers that started as relievers and turned into good starters as well.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:21 pm to Hot Carl
anderson was fine, too. had some bad batted ball luck. he made his pitches
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:27 pm to Hot Carl
How about just do what makes sense? Not the oppo of what another 100 coaches would do.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:29 pm to robertjohnson3562
Or we can continue to play russian roulette with the lineup. Thats got us far this year.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:14 pm to Nutriaitch
That record is on Andy Lopez & PM coattails. This team was ranked #2 preseason and has the #1 recruiting class and #1 transfer portal class.
Now let’s see over the next two years how good of a coach he is. Great recruiter but let’s see if CJJ knows how to coach and develop players. The jury is still out.
Now let’s see over the next two years how good of a coach he is. Great recruiter but let’s see if CJJ knows how to coach and develop players. The jury is still out.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:17 pm to LSBoosie
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Instead, your best pitcher came in the 2nd inning down 5-0.
This is foolishness. If they had started Herring they still would have put Anderson in there, and he would have given the five runs up then. What difference does it make?
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:20 pm to Penrod
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This is foolishness. If they had started Herring they still would have put Anderson in there, and he would have given the five runs up then. What difference does it make?
Because we have no idea if that is true.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:27 pm to LSBoosie
I actually agree with you for a change but with an *. Imo if you are hell bent on bringing Herring out of the pen then it makes more sense to start Coleman In what was essentially a must win for us. Putting Anderson on the mound for the start is wild considering how he has performed in the SEC so far. Granted coming out of the pen is different than getting a start, but it just doesn’t seem like the most ideal time to get a true freshman his first start in the sec.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 5:38 am to LSBoosie
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Starting a game guarantees a clean situation. If a reliever is brought in to start the 2nd inning, you have likely already screwed yourself and the situation is much worse.
The fact that they started Anderson shows you that had they started Herring they would have inserted Anderson early and tried to get two or three innings out of him. Maybe the baseball gods would have smiled on that, but how does CJJ know that before the game starts?
Same with the shift. A bunch of retards criticize the shift without giving any statistics about where that particular batter usually hits that particular pitch.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 6:37 am to FredbullTN
I would have gone Coleman, Herring. But don't blame Anderson for the loss. He didn't pitch that bad. It is easy to become after-the-facts experts. We had our chances and didn't make c!utch plays, which has been the story most of the season.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 6:38 am to LSBoosie
I try not to pretend I know as much about baseball than our CJJ, but this one did NOT make sense. You are going for a needed series sweep and your best pitcher over the last few weeks is ready to go. It's T'd up for you to start him and ride him for 60-70 pitchers. I know the wildly inconsistent performance of our pitching staff does not help, but more and more it looks like our coaches are really perplexed & challenged when it comes to pitcher utilization.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 6:38 am to LSBoosie
Know why? Because JJ said so.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:40 am to SammyTiger
Or possibly Loer then bring in herring.
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