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Absolutely...except most of that shite ton of people will also go on a road trip a couple of times a year which would exceed the capacity of the EV

Not if that EV is a Tesla, see my point above on Teslas vs all other EVs.

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either way they ain't saving money, they are wasting money.

Again, see above.

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If you are brand loyal to Tesla my friend you do you boo

Wait, are you insinuating that you do not agree with my points above how Tesla differs from other EVs? You're going to need to elaborate on that, because that legit makes zero sense. Have you heard of superchargers? That alone kills the 1st part of your post I'm replying to to explain the difference between Tesla and other EVs. If you're refusing to acknowledge that, then you're just refusing to acknowledge obvious facts at this point.

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but it is not coming from a sound financial decision making process for most drivers

I paid $40k for my first Tesla and $60k for my 2nd. There is quite literally no other non EV vehicle I could have bought at the same price points that would have been cheaper in terms of total cost of ownership for me, so please explain how that was not a sound financial decision but any other $40k or $60k non EV would have been a sound financial decision...

in 4 years, I've saved somewhere in the low thousands in gas and have spent exactly $0 on maintenance outside of routine stuff that isn't EV specific like tires, windshield washer fluids, filters.

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Posted by billjamin

Houston

Member since Jun 2019

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Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:16 pm to AwgustaDawg

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either way they ain't saving money, they are wasting money.

Thats completely false. It's cheaper for 75+% of truck owners to rent or hotshot the 0-1 times a year they tow/haul than to drive around it in all the time.

And for roadtrips they're perfectly capable of doing them with a minor addition in time for recharging. I'd trade that slight inconvenience for the self driving capability on a road trip.

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Posted by Box Geauxrilla

Member since Jun 2013

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Posted on 10/16/23 at 5:14 pm to AwgustaDawg

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most of that shite ton of people will also go on a road trip a couple of times a year which would exceed the capacity of the EV

Speaking from my personal experience road tripping from Texas to Louisiana in a Tesla multiple times a year.

I leave my house at a full 100% charge. I pull into Buccee’s at less than 10% battery remaining, plug in the Supercharger, walk inside, take a leak, grab some snacks, wait for my wife to stop looking at shite we don’t need. Get back in my car and I’m already at 90% and ready to continue my trip.

People really blow the extra time needed to charge on road trips out of proportion. I’m sure at some point on every road trip you need to stop to use the restroom, grab some food, or take a break. That is when you charge. If you’re on that tight of a schedule for your vacations you may need to reconsider your priorities.

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Posted by shel311

McKinney, Texas

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Posted on 10/16/23 at 5:25 pm to Box Geauxrilla

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Speaking from my personal experience road tripping from Texas to Louisiana in a Tesla multiple times a year.

Yea, I replied to the same post. That poster insinuated that a Tesla doesn't really have advantage over other EVs, which is absurd. He's right, road tripping in a non Tesla is a huge inconvenience and not terribly practical.

But his ideal that a road trip "exceeds the capacity of the EV" just isn't the case for a Tesla.

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I leave my house at a full 100% charge. I pull into Buccee’s at less than 10% battery remaining, plug in the Supercharger, walk inside, take a leak, grab some snacks, wait for my wife to stop looking at shite we don’t need. Get back in my car and I’m already at 90% and ready to continue my trip.

I take a 10 hour family vacation yearly, and sometimes we take the EV and other times we don't depending on the weather at the resort(skiing, so don't take the EV if there's a lot of snow forecasted and take the ICE SUV instead.) We have a pretty solid schedule yearly leaving same day/same time and taking the EV really adds probably less than 30 minutes to our trip. Sure, if you literally just get gas and immediately get back in your car and go, charging comparably will make you lose maybe an hour for a 10 hour road trip.

But with family and kids, you're gonna make stops you didn't plan to make so they can pee. You'll probably stop and eat as opposed to the entire family eating while driving. With a Tesla, you're charging while doing all those same things you'd normally do, so the added time is pretty minimal to be honest. Another reason for that...

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People really blow the extra time needed to charge on road trips out of proportion.

The majority of these threads will see a couple of posters stating you have to take 1-2 hours to charge. And you also see a lot of 30-45 minutes but truthfully it's 10-15 minutes. Since V3 chargers came out a couple of years or however long ago it was, I don't think i've ever once needed to charge for more than 15 minutes. I've sometimes charged for 30 minutes or more if we're inside eating or whatever, but I've never needed to charge more than 15 minutes at any given stop due to how fast these superchargers work nowadays.

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