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re: Royal Enfield Motorcycles
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:14 am to GeauxTigers0107
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:14 am to GeauxTigers0107
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I did that and THIS is what came up. I'd probably go that route if I were you. Learn on somebody else's junk then start looking at your first purchase once the skill and confidence is there.
Looking at that course, it looks like they train you on a sports bike, does that matter? Meaning is the feel of that bike going to translate to a more classic style bike?
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:20 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Step one is to take an approved class. Most responsible dealers offer these. The Motorcycle Safety Foundation had a list of these. I took Rider's Edge through Harley.
This was for two reasons - I learned to ride safely, but also learned a whole lot more about MCs than what look I wanted. Changed what I thought I had wanted before the class.
Step two is to sit on a whole lot of bikes and see what fits. This is nothing like having many hours of seat time, but it is a start.
Another option is to see if you can find someone with a spare bike that you might ride - after you are trained and insured.
I echo an entry level Indian as a good starter. An older Harley is what I went for as a first bike. Looked at Triumph and they are nice bikes, but service and parts were pretty sketchy. Enfield was non-existent, so I was never serious about them.
One more thought. Decide what type of riding you want to do. Short hops or long epic touring trips... These require very different cycles.
This was for two reasons - I learned to ride safely, but also learned a whole lot more about MCs than what look I wanted. Changed what I thought I had wanted before the class.
Step two is to sit on a whole lot of bikes and see what fits. This is nothing like having many hours of seat time, but it is a start.
Another option is to see if you can find someone with a spare bike that you might ride - after you are trained and insured.
I echo an entry level Indian as a good starter. An older Harley is what I went for as a first bike. Looked at Triumph and they are nice bikes, but service and parts were pretty sketchy. Enfield was non-existent, so I was never serious about them.
One more thought. Decide what type of riding you want to do. Short hops or long epic touring trips... These require very different cycles.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:30 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Looking at that course, it looks like they train you on a sports bike
I didn't look into the details of that particular place but that could very well be the case. You can verify that by just calling them up.
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does that matter
I think it does in that sports bikes have you in a more aggressive riding position...seat is higher, handle bars are lower, foot pegs are back. More of your weight will be forced forward vs the old school bike you prefer which is your weight will be centered over the seat, comfortable reach to higher handle bars, forward foot pegs.
One will feel like you're sitting in a chair with you hands comfortably on your thighs. The other will resemble sitting in a chair with you leaning forward with your elbows on your knees.
I would say look in the suggestions mentioned earlier and find a Harley riding school. You'll learn on something much more similar to your preferred purchase down the road.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:44 am to Bert Macklin FBI
You are going to be miserable on a 350cc air cooled motor at highway speeds. It's not just displacement. Air cooled don't make the hp of liquid cooled. You're going to want something w/ at least 40ish hp if highway riding is what you're planning on. The 650 would be a much better choice.
A cheap used japanese bike would be a better place to start.
A cheap used japanese bike would be a better place to start.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:02 am to C9
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You are going to be miserable on a 350cc air cooled motor at highway speeds. It's not just displacement. Air cooled don't make the hp of liquid cooled. You're going to want something w/ at least 40ish hp if highway riding is what you're planning on. The 650 would be a much better choice.
A cheap used japanese bike would be a better place to start.
Interstates perhaps, but not highway speeds. They’ll easily do 70, and upwards of 80 without ever feeling like the bike is straining or you are maxing revs, and no buzzing. They are governed from the factory, and with a DNA air filter upgrade and after market exhaust and break in, they are quite responsive. The HP and torgue are evenly matched, meaning you get consistency throughout the rev range which makes for a fun bike to ride IMO. Now granted, you aren’t going to have much overtaking at higher speeds, but it can do sane speeds. I think it matters more of what kind of riding are you going to do. If you’re on the west coast where people are regularly cruising at 80-90 mph, then it’s clearly not the bike for that kind of stuff on the reg, but if you’re wanting to hit state highways and backroads, or town riding, then they are outstanding bikes for that, especially with someone just getting started or returning to riding, or just wanting to have fun on the weekends, and done with the adrenaline seeking.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:10 am to Mike da Tigah
The 350cc RE has ~20 hp and is limited from the factory to a top speed of 72mph.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:34 am to Bert Macklin FBI
A friend of mine recently got the Meteor. He found it underpowered and not very solid at highway speeds.
Now he wishes he would have gone bigger. For $5K, you get what you pay for.
Now he wishes he would have gone bigger. For $5K, you get what you pay for.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:37 am to C9
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The 350cc RE has ~20 hp and is limited from the factory to a top speed of 72mph.
The Classic, Meteor, and Bullet, but not the Hunter. It’s not governed. The HP is also at the rear wheel, not the crank. It’s BHP, which is going to be lower. The Hunter has been tested by many people to exceed 80 MPH. It’s the governor that restricts the others. That’s not a world beater by any stretch of the imagination, but for most applications it’s plenty enough.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:39 am to BayouBlitz
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A friend of mine recently got the Meteor. He found it underpowered and not very solid at highway speeds.
I think that has more to do with the Ceat tires than the bike itself. Those tires track badly. A tire upgrade should remedy that.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:41 am to Bert Macklin FBI
The Meteor looks cooler than the classic, mate
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:45 am to Mike da Tigah
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They are governed from the factory, and with a DNA air filter upgrade and after market exhaust and break in, they are quite responsive.
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A tire upgrade should remedy that.
I see you mentioned a few upgrades needed to make the Meteor 350 better for highways. Just curious how much that would cost? At that point maybe it would make more sense to fork up the extra money and get a 650.
The only reason I still may lean 350 is because having a wife and kids, I don't see myself getting more than afternoon on the weekends to ride it anyway. I don't think any long road trips are in the near future. Meaning it would mostly cruise along the lake or an over the causeway ride to the northshore.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 11:46 am
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:50 am to SirWinston
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The Meteor looks cooler than the classic, mate
I think so too. I also think the seat looks more comfortable.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:51 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Triumph T100 is what you’re looking for if you want British.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:59 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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I see you mentioned a few upgrades needed to make the Meteor 350 better for highways. Just curious how much that would cost? At that point maybe it would make more sense to fork up the extra money and get a 650.
I think that’s a good question. The DNA is around 30-40 bucks or so, and an after market exhaust around 100 give or take, and tires will range, but if you look at Michelin Road 6 for example, you’re going to be in excess of 400 or so for a set of those, and they’re on the higher side but well worth it.
You’re probably going to want to do the same with the Interceptor, GT, Super Meteor, or Shotgun as well though, so I would think eventually that’s going to be a moot point.
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The only reason I still may lean 350 is because having a wife and kids, I don't see myself getting more than afternoon on the weekends to ride it anyway. I don't think any long road trips are in the near future. Meaning it would mostly cruise along the lake or an over the causeway ride to the northshore.
It should do that once you finish the initial break in quite easily. The 650 is definitely going to give you more options though, especially with the Interceptor for example and the plethora of after market accessories it has to pick from.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:41 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
I almost got a Himalayan but instead got a used Suzuki Boulevard. It's a 650cc and has plenty of power. I'm making it into a Bobber.
I do like the REs though especially the Himalayan.
I do like the REs though especially the Himalayan.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:52 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Three things:
1) I would take the MSF rider course. Great course for beginners.
2) Invest in some good gear and use it.
3) I would look at a bike with at least some wind protection. Unless you plan on riding nothing but short trips, the naked bike will get old quick.
1) I would take the MSF rider course. Great course for beginners.
2) Invest in some good gear and use it.
3) I would look at a bike with at least some wind protection. Unless you plan on riding nothing but short trips, the naked bike will get old quick.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:55 pm to Napoleon
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I do like the REs though especially the Himalayan.
The new 450 Himmy is about to land here in the states, and I’m considering it. Not that I’d consider aggressive off road, but for touring with the occasional off road and moto camping, it’s pretty tempting.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:59 pm to AndyCBR
I just took the msf at Harley. You ride 500 cc sportsters. If you know how to ride its sort of boring. A lot of slow speed drills. I felt like too much time was spent walking the bikes and playing with the friction zone.
Still it helps to take the class. I haven't gotten my M endorsement yet. So I'm paying a higher price for insurance. Once I have the m stamp insurance will be $10 a month right now it's $80.
Get a good helmet and gloves and pants and jacket.
Still it helps to take the class. I haven't gotten my M endorsement yet. So I'm paying a higher price for insurance. Once I have the m stamp insurance will be $10 a month right now it's $80.
Get a good helmet and gloves and pants and jacket.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:10 pm to Napoleon
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I almost got a Himalayan but instead got a used Suzuki Boulevard. It's a 650cc and has plenty of power. I'm making it into a Bobber.
I do like the REs though especially the Himalayan
Premade kit for the bobber or homebrewing yourself. I turned a Savage into a Scrambler style a few years ago. Was a fun little chugger.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:24 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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or an over the causeway ride to the northshore.
You don't want to do that on a light weight underpowered motorcycle. If that's part of your plan, you will regret that purchase.
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