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Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:29 pm to 3nOut
quote:Nah.
You are being purposely obtuse and you know it.
quote:Your major error (and you are far from alone here) is in equating opposition to something or someone with "censorship".
No he is not asking for somebody he likes or agrees with to be censored. He’s also not asking for somebody he doesn’t like or disagrees with to be censored either.
Of course he is going to be louder about somebody he agrees with getting censored but for your point to be the gotcha you’re trying to get, you’d have to have evidence that they were for censoring somebody on the other side. There’s no evidence of that.
As always, freedom of speech does not mean freedom from opposition or consequences.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:30 pm to ZZTIGERS
quote:Funny, I think the same of you guys.
I don’t think you understand how freedom of speech works. Like, at all.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:31 pm to SUB
quote:Those are absolutely the choices in this case.quote:Those are not the choices.
Choose free speech in the form of lies, or choose free speech in the form of opposition to lies
You can even pick which side you think is promoting lies.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:34 pm to Korkstand
Nope. I don’t particularly care about who is allegedly telling lies to or not. It is irrelevant.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:36 pm to Korkstand
quote:
So you're choosing freedom of speech by "canceling" the band who is exercising their freedom of speech?
I’m shocked that Korkstand has a lame take. Absolutely shocked.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:46 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Your major error (and you are far from alone here) is in equating opposition to something or someone with "censorship".
Your error is thinking you control the language. You don’t get to define “censor” how you see fit and then apply it how you see fit.
Censor - to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable
i.e. censor the news
also : to suppress or delete as objectionable
People are not objecting to Rogan’s message and leaving it at that. They are saying:
“he goes, or I go.”
“Certain episodes go, or I go.”
“Please don’t have on people that have messages I don’t like or I’m quitting”
Objecting would just be “I don’t like that message. That’s all.”
You’re a hack.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:49 pm to SUB
quote:Do you think there is a difference between speech which promotes X and speech which opposes X?
Nope. I don’t particularly care about who is allegedly telling lies to or not. It is irrelevant.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:50 pm to Tbonepatron
CSNY is still on Spotify. At least the 4 way street and Deja Vu albums are.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:53 pm to 3nOut
Damnnnn this korkstand mignon faget is getting shite on
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:55 pm to 3nOut
quote:Neither do you.
Your error is thinking you control the language. You don’t get to define “censor” how you see fit and then apply it how you see fit.
quote:Yes I have access to a dictionary.
Censor - to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable
i.e. censor the news
also : to suppress or delete as objectionable
quote:These are examples of freedom of contract. Or also freedom of association (speech).
People are not objecting to Rogan’s message and leaving it at that. They are saying:
“he goes, or I go.”
“Certain episodes go, or I go.”
“Please don’t have on people that have messages I don’t like or I’m quitting”
quote:Don't hurt yourself exercising that freedom of speech so hard!
Objecting would just be “I don’t like that message. That’s all.”
This post was edited on 2/2/22 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:57 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Korkstand
oh principled one
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:57 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:
I’m shocked that Korkstand has a lame take. Absolutely shocked.
To you lame take = what you don't agree with.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:10 pm to Klark Kent
quote:
i say let the losers ‘exercise their freedom of speech’ (as Kork says) and lose money.
As usual you do not understand what he is saying. I would think it is a bad business move, but agree or disagree with them, they are expressing freedom of speech. Are they not?
They have freedom of speech to say that they don't think Joe Rogan should be on Spotify and they are making a statement by pulling their music off of it.
You have the freedom of speech to say you don't agree with what they are doing, but you can't deny the fact they have freedom of speech to do what they are doing.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:13 pm to Tbonepatron
These artists have hated Spotify ever since it started. They just needed a "moral" reason to screw their fans out of their music.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:16 pm to OweO
quote:
They have freedom of speech to say that they don't think Joe Rogan should be on Spotify and they are making a statement by pulling their music off of it.
even when they sell half their catalog to the largest financial asset manager in the world?
Neil Young isn’t sticking it to the man. he’s carrying the man’s stick and expecting people to care
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:17 pm to OweO
quote:
To you lame take = what you don't agree with.
Oh wow. OweO and Korkstand on the same side. Now I know that I’m taking the correct stance, morally, physically and spiritually.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:19 pm to rocksteady
quote:
Damnnnn this korkstand mignon faget is getting shite on
He’s the worst. He’s LNCHBOX without the humor, wit and intelligence.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:24 pm to Tbonepatron
Is John Legend under the age of 45?
He seems as likely a candidate as any to pull this shite.
He seems as likely a candidate as any to pull this shite.
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:28 pm to Tbonepatron
Jason Isbell
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