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Veterinarians...can dogs carry strep?

Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:45 pm
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:45 pm
I know there are quite a few vets that post here, hoping I can get an opinion.

My 2 year old, who has many health issues, has been sick, and tested positive for strep throat 5 times in the past 3 months. They believe we have a permanent carrier in the house and mentioned the dogs as a possibility.

My.other daughter and I both were negative last week so it's either my wife or the dogs.

Is this common for dogs to carry human bacteria...or even possible? I've read differing opinions
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15229 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:39 pm to
Sounds like you need to put some masks on your dogs. Trust the science
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31120 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

They believe we have a permanent carrier in the house


quote:

my wife


Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:43 pm to
Why don’t you have the dog(s) cultured to see if they have it? Seems like there’s all kinds of sources to eliminate. You’ve tested you and one kid. Go get
The dog checked out.

Then blame mama
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:56 pm to
Definitely going to go that route. I was just kind of wondering if it's a common occurrence or something extremely rare

And if the dogs come back positive, what then LOL?
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 4:57 pm
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3736 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 5:03 pm to
fought strep all my life till i had tonsils removed
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 5:19 pm to
My wife’s a vet. Said it’s pretty rare for a dog to transmit strep to a human. Not looking good for momma.
Posted by Yukon7
Louisiana
Member since May 2018
588 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 5:32 pm to
But then why don't you have strep? You are around the dog and momma? I could see one person being immune to it but no way all of the family is immune except for the 2 year old.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

And if the dogs come back positive, what then LOL?


Antibiotics for the dogs. Your vet will know once everything is established
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

But then why don't you have strep? You are around the dog and momma? I could see one person being immune to it but no way all of the family is immune except for the 2 year old.


great question
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
53621 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 6:35 am to
Friends wife is a partner at a vet clinic and says none of them have ever heard of a dog transmitting something like this to a human.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
4919 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 9:18 am to
while not impossible i would consider it a rare occurrence. You said you and the kid were tested. do you have the exact species of the strep? If you have your vet culture the dog and it comes back as positive for some strep it wont do much good if you cant differentiate is it could be completely different.

Mom is the more likely candidate for the carrier, and more chances of accidentally exposing kid to said bacteria (atleast i assume, dont let your dog prepare your kids food).
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
4919 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 9:19 am to
quote:

But then why don't you have strep? You are around the dog and momma? I could see one person being immune to it but no way all of the family is immune except for the 2 year old.


Young individual with weaker immune system. Pop is adult with developed immune system.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 10:44 am to
Don’t the tonsils play a role in recurring strep throats in children? Thought that was one of the reasons kids get tonsillectomies? Or am I way off base?
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5177 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:00 am to
I just googled this and TDIL that strep throat can be carried by fish. I wonder if Jimmy Houston ever had problems.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

while not impossible i would consider it a rare occurrence. You said you and the kid were tested. do you have the exact species of the strep? If you have your vet culture the dog and it comes back as positive for some strep it wont do much good if you cant differentiate is it could be completely different.

Mom is the more likely candidate for the carrier, and more chances of accidentally exposing kid to said bacteria (atleast i assume, dont let your dog prepare your kids food

Thanks for the info. Apparently all of the tests have been for strep A
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

while not impossible i would consider it a rare occurrence. You said you and the kid were tested. do you have the exact species of the strep? If you have your vet culture the dog and it comes back as positive for some strep it wont do much good if you cant differentiate is it could be completely different.

Mom is the more likely candidate for the carrier, and more chances of accidentally exposing kid to said bacteria (atleast i assume, dont let your dog prepare your kids food

Thanks for the info. Apparently all of the tests have been for strep A
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 10:25 am to
I'm a family physician and I have seen a case of dog to human transmission of strep and 2 cases of cat to human.

All of those likely were a human to animal transmission that the animal then reinfected the human. All were small child that likes to get in face of the animal.

In general kids get it more because they put everything in their mouth and they touch their face continuously. Adults who get it often are either loving on the child (mom), sharing food/drink, or they have the same nasty habits of children and touch their face too much.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18775 posts
Posted on 8/15/21 at 1:30 pm to
The Washington Post medical mystery column recently featured a family that had 7 rounds of strep in 7 months. They would take antibiotics, get well, then it would come back.

The dad was a university biologist, and he suspected Umberto, the family cat. Docs were skeptical, and local vets refused to swab the healthy cat because they thought it would require general anesthesia.

The dad finally persuaded the university animal hospital to test the cat as a research project.

quote:

On April 4, while the entire family was taking antibiotics for the seventh bout of strep in as many months, Umberto was seen by Barry-Heffernan and a vet student. They whisked Umberto, who Barry-Heffernan said seemed “perfectly healthy,” into a nearby room and quickly swabbed his throat. Neither anesthesia nor oxygen was required. “Umberto was a really nice cat,” she recalled, so the procedure wasn’t difficult.

To the surprise of the vet school faculty, group A strep was found in the cat’s throat; it appeared to match the strain of strep collected during Levitis’s most recent throat culture. “Almost certainly Umberto was contributing to the family’s infections,” Barry-Heffernan said.

She prescribed antibiotics for the cat and a disinfectant spray for his fur. And the Levitis family was given another round of antibiotics.

Soon afterward they left on a previously scheduled two-week trip to Costa Rica. In their absence Umberto was given his medication, and the house was professionally cleaned for a second time.

Since then, Levitis said, no one has had strep.


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