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re: Boris Yeltsin Transcript ...spoke to US Congress 1992
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:09 am to alpinetiger
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:09 am to alpinetiger
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and for the US to actually mind its own business.
The reason we are hated isn't because of Trump, its because we are the worlds bullies.
You cannot be a libertarian and support our involvement in this war. Period.
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:14 am to Harry Rex Vonner
quote:Yes, Harry. I said that in my VERY FIRST POST.
Hank...Boris Yeltsin served as president of Russia while the Soviet Union still existed and while Gorby was still president of the USSR
He was also NOT a Communist at that time. He resigned from the Party in June of 1990 and immediately began working to dismantle the USSR. The position of Russian President was created in March of 1991, and Yeltsin was elected to that position in June of 1991. The USSR was dissolved that December. He was an ELECTED leader of RUSSIA in OPPOSITION to the USSR for those six months.
Are you too young to remember the 1990s?
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 10:28 am
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:16 am to roadGator
The left was pissed bc it’s ideological Mecca was defeated, the Rs who ran the MIC (cough Bushes) were pissed that they no longer had a bad guy. So the Left finally completed its infiltration of the MIC that had previously been limited to the state department by making a deal with the Bushes, and here we are. The worst elements of both political parties entirely control our foreign policy - whether economic or military
Globalism is poison.
Even the Soviets weren’t proud to be Russian
Globalism is poison.
Even the Soviets weren’t proud to be Russian
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:20 am to AggieHank86
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As a matter of policy in the 1990s, the US treated the successor state to the Soviet Union like a banana republic. Of course there were going to be consequences.
wrong again
we began provoking a world player
we weren't "treating them like Jamaica"
we were provoking a world war
and apologists like you have the audacity to say that made Putin "belligerent"
you mix lies into almost everything you say
you consistently downplay the evil that America did/does, and you make "Putin" out to be the villain
so I'll just say it all again - you're a liar
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:23 am to AggieHank86
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Putin is an expansionist (technically revanchist) autocrat.
more lies!
holy shite you can't help yourself, or you just really don't understand the real truth
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:31 am to Harry Rex Vonner
quote:Well, seizure of the Crimea and eastern Ukraine is textbook revanchism, and I am willing to assume arguendo that you understand the term.
Putin is an expansionist (technically revanchist) autocrat.quote:
more lies!
So we are left with the notion that you must be denying Putin's status as an autocrat.
OK
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:33 am to Wednesday
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The left was pissed bc it’s ideological Mecca was defeated, the Rs who ran the MIC (cough Bushes) were pissed that they no longer had a bad guy.
The Russian proxy war is just more MIC bullshite.
Those weapons and money don't end up in Ukraine. This is just a gimme for bureaucrats and weapons manufacturers.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:35 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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As a matter of policy in the 1990s, the US treated the successor state to the Soviet Union like a banana republic. Of course there were going to be consequences.quote:
wrong again we began provoking a world player we weren't "treating them like Jamaica" we were provoking a world war
Or the "Heinlein's Razor" variant
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 11:04 am
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:36 am to JJJimmyJimJames
This was a barely cogent response and I can tell you were just smashing your keyboard angrily because you couldn't figure out how to respond otherwise.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:36 am to Wednesday
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So the Left finally completed its infiltration of the MIC
neocons have always been lefty loonatics. their ideology is derived from Lev Bronstein's belief of a "democratic" world order by use of force.
Trotskyism was a very popular ideology within the American communist movements of the 50s and 60s. Bill Kristol's father was one of the first promulgators of American Trotskyites. neocon ideology became prominent in foreign policy studies and think tanks.
Neocons are radicals. and they need to purged from government and society.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:37 am to AggieHank86
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Well, seizure of the Crimea and eastern Ukraine is textbook revanchism
No issue with that.
Why are we involved?
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The Russian proxy war is just more MIC bullshite.
Correct.
That money ain’t gonna launder itself.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:41 am to AggieHank86
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He was an ELECTED leader of RUSSIA in OPPOSITION to the USSR for those six months.
yes I know, as I've said quote:
Are you too young to remember the 1990s?
I destroyed most of my brain cells in the 90's
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:42 am to Wednesday
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That money ain’t gonna launder itself.
Those beltway mansions are just waiting to be built.
The Federal Gov has become an old boys/girls club for the benefit of tCult.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:42 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:My opinion?
seizure of the Crimea and eastern Ukraine is textbook revanchismquote:
No issue with that. Why are we involved?
To thwart a geopolitical rival.
We can dress it up in pretty words about Ukrainian sovereignty, but historically the pretty speeches seldom reflect the realpolitik.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 10:45 am
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:48 am to AggieHank86
quote:
To thwart a geopolitical rival.
Its to extend our influence over Eastern Europe and the far East.
We shouldn't be involved at all..
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:55 am to AggieHank86
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So we are left with the notion that you must be denying Putin's status as an autocrat.
have you read up on the history of Great Britain and the USA?
down the rabbit hole you continue to go
holy shite
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
spot on
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:08 pm to AggieHank86
quote:That's a bit disingenuous.
If we had treated them as a respected international partner, Putin would never have risen to power.
Putin becoming president had everything to do with his control of the intelligence apparatus, and thusly the propaganda apparatus.
Yeltsin's hesitance about opening up the media markets to outside influence was a far more significant "enabling" move ensuring Putin's rise to power. . .since there was no countervailing balance to KGB/FSB propaganda.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:22 pm to ApexTiger
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Sometimes the obsolete standards brought into being by a different era are artificially imposed on new realities
Speaking directly to the morons who keep insisting Russia is still a Communist country.
quote:
Strengthen moral standards of our people
This goes against the La Woka Nostra World order of chopping off the dicks of little boys and putting them in dresses.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 3:24 pm
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