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Could the US pull off a Berlin style airlift in Kiev, if necessary?
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:25 pm
Looks like Kiev will be encircled and blockaded shortly... Those people have to eat.
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"From 26 June 1948 to 30 September 1949 the Berlin Airlift carried supplies to the people of West Berlin, a difficult feat given the size of the city's population.[1][2] American and British air forces flew over Berlin more than 250,000 times, dropping necessities such as fuel and food, with the original plan being to lift 3,475 tons of supplies daily. By the spring of 1949, that number was often met twofold, with the peak daily delivery totalling 12,941 tons.[3]
Having initially concluded there was no way the airlift could work, its continued success became an increasing embarrassment for the Soviets"
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:27 pm to mattloc
Sure. The Russians will absolutely let hundreds of flights land and supply the Ukrainians every day.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:28 pm to Ag Zwin
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Sure. The Russians will absolutely let hundreds of flights land and supply the Ukrainians every day.
I stand corrected... Planes both landed and dropped necessities from the air
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:28 pm to mattloc
The Russians aren’t just going to start slaughtering unarmed citizens. The whole world is watching. That’s not why they are there
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:28 pm to mattloc
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There were no landing planes in the Berlin airlift... Supplies were dropped from the skies
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:29 pm to mattloc
You need a President with a spine and a functioning brain for something like that. Does anything about that senile son of a bitch inspire confidence?
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:30 pm to mattloc
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There were no landing planes in the Berlin airlift
You have no idea what you're talking about
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:31 pm to mattloc
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There were no landing planes in the Berlin airlift... Supplies were dropped from the skies
Holy shite.
Do yourself a favor. Delete your account and start over. You won’t recover from this.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:33 pm to Ag Zwin
The method of airdrop refers to the way the load leaves the aircraft. There are three main airdrop methods currently used in military operations.
Auto Extraction airdrops use an extraction parachute to pull the load out of the end of the aircraft: the parachute is deployed behind the aircraft, pulling the load out before cargo parachutes slow its descent. Extraction drops are usually low-velocity airdrops, with rare exceptions (e.g. LAPES).
Manual Extraction airdrops, where the load is physically pushed out of an aircraft by a specially trained crew of up to four people.
Gravity airdrops use the attitude of the aircraft at time of drop to cause loads to roll out of the plane like a sled down a hill. The most common use of a gravity airdrop is the Container Delivery System (CDS) bundle.
Door bundle drops are the simplest of airdrop methods: the loadmaster simply pushes out the load at the appropriate time.
Historically, bomber aircraft were often used to drop supplies, using special supply canisters compatible with the aircraft's bomb attachment system. During World War II, German bomber aircraft dropped containers called Versorgungsbomben (provisions bombs) to supply friendly troops on the ground. The British equivalent was the CLE Canister that could carry up to 600 pounds (270 kg) of supplies or weapons. Notably, British and American bombers air-dropped weapons to the Polish Home Army during the Warsaw Uprising in 1944. During the Dutch famine of 1944-1945, British and American bombers dropped food on the Netherlands to feed civilians in danger of starvation; an agreement was made with Germany not to fire on the airdrop aircraft.
Auto Extraction airdrops use an extraction parachute to pull the load out of the end of the aircraft: the parachute is deployed behind the aircraft, pulling the load out before cargo parachutes slow its descent. Extraction drops are usually low-velocity airdrops, with rare exceptions (e.g. LAPES).
Manual Extraction airdrops, where the load is physically pushed out of an aircraft by a specially trained crew of up to four people.
Gravity airdrops use the attitude of the aircraft at time of drop to cause loads to roll out of the plane like a sled down a hill. The most common use of a gravity airdrop is the Container Delivery System (CDS) bundle.
Door bundle drops are the simplest of airdrop methods: the loadmaster simply pushes out the load at the appropriate time.
Historically, bomber aircraft were often used to drop supplies, using special supply canisters compatible with the aircraft's bomb attachment system. During World War II, German bomber aircraft dropped containers called Versorgungsbomben (provisions bombs) to supply friendly troops on the ground. The British equivalent was the CLE Canister that could carry up to 600 pounds (270 kg) of supplies or weapons. Notably, British and American bombers air-dropped weapons to the Polish Home Army during the Warsaw Uprising in 1944. During the Dutch famine of 1944-1945, British and American bombers dropped food on the Netherlands to feed civilians in danger of starvation; an agreement was made with Germany not to fire on the airdrop aircraft.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:33 pm to Ag Zwin
NO flights were landed? Damn dude, pretty ignorant post.
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In time, the airlift became ever more efficient and the number of aircraft increased. At the height of the campaign, one plane landed every 45 seconds at Tempelhof Airport. By spring 1949, the Berlin Airlift proved successful. The Western Allies showed that they could sustain the operation indefinitely. At the same time, the Allied counter-blockade on eastern Germany was causing severe shortages, which, Moscow feared, might lead to political upheaval.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:18 am to mattloc
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Could the US pull off a Berlin style airlift in Kiev, if necessary?
Under this Administration? Were you in a coma during the Afghanistan pull out?
Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:20 am to mattloc
Posted on 2/26/22 at 10:23 am to mattloc
Could we? Of course.
We wouldn't, even if it were the right thing to do (which I'm not making a call on, here).
We wouldn't, even if it were the right thing to do (which I'm not making a call on, here).
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