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re: Elizabeth Warren's 11 Commandments of Progressivism

Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:30 am to
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:30 am to
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Elizabeth Warren's 11 Commandments of Progressivism

Those are excellent.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:37 am to
So in other words, she has zero plans to fix anything wrong with this country.
Posted by fleaux
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:41 am to
"Women have a right to their bodies"

still wondering how the Hobby Lobby decision took that "right" away
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:58 am to
Yall best not write this woman off...she speaks with HEART AND CONVICTION. And given the collegiate indoctrination of *educated* youth, the utter contempt for Big Business (insane profits/bonuses while Blue Collar American stagnates with rising costs), the burden of a shrinking economy and the heartless Conservatives to cut basis services (welfare, stamps, phones, et al)...the Greens who always vote single-issue...Government Unions/jobs and the open border (Hispanic vote)....and the final nail....Obama and Michelle HEARTILY CAMPAIGNING for Warren........and you got yourself the FIRST WOMAN POTUS.

Clinton is the epitome of fakery; this gal can take Hillary to the woodshed in a debate. And likely will. At least she's honest re what she believes. I respect that. Better than the current liar in chief.

Posted by LongueCarabine
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:59 am to
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Those are excellent.


In your feeble mind I'm sure they are.

LC
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 10:08 am
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 10:13 am to
11 things that EW said that I didn't read
Posted by EST
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:09 pm to
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"We believe in science, and that means that we have a responsibility to protect this Earth."


Huh? What a bunch of crap.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:12 pm to
Her native American name is Lying Thundercount
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:15 pm to
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Perhaps the reports are true and they really are going to make a push for her...


I am saying 70% for her to be the Democratic nominee. She is very similar to (then) Senator Obama in 2008. A blank canvas that you can put your hopes and dreams on.

HRC has too much baggage (clearly established positions) and very high negatives. And quite frankly (and I don't blame her), she is tired. I don't think she has the stomach for it and the Democrats know this. They want some fresh blood to carry the banner.

Senator Warren is that person.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:15 pm to
But she ug. So it won't work.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:17 pm to
She may not be physically attractive, but she has "D" behind her name. That is enough for voters in this country.
Posted by yumahog
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:18 pm to
11 commandments of progressiveism? No thank you. Ugly biatch!


War on women? In her case, gladly
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 1:19 pm
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:20 pm to
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She may not be physically attractive, but she has "D" behind her name. That is enough for voters in this country.


Not enough of them. There's less than 30% for both D and R (and those numbers depend on who's doing what). You need a lot of squishy idiots in the middle and an ugly person simply won't get them. Especially an ugly woman.
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:23 pm to
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Not enough of them.


I'm calling it now, if she can keep her message below the level of "shrill" then I say the odds are 60-40 in her favor that she will be the next President of the United States.

Republicans better field someone good.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:24 pm to
She doesn't have a prayer and won't even be the nominee.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:26 pm to
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She doesn't have a prayer and won't even be the nominee.


Disagree my friend.

Who are you seeing as the "D" nominee?
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:27 pm to
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We believe that Wall Street needs stronger rules and tougher enforcement, and we're willing to fight for it." Good,- me too, we agree, Amen Ms, Warren!

- "We believe in science, and that means that we have a responsibility to protect this Earth." The sun is cooling right now, the earth is cooling as well, so you must be referring to the smog over China? China is part Earth, what exactly are we going to do to make china changer their ways? Nothing!

- "We believe that the Internet shouldn't be rigged to benefit big corporations, and that means real net neutrality." Google is everyone's friend Ms Warren...

- "We believe that no one should work full-time and still live in poverty, and that means raising the minimum wage." so you want to raise it to 24.50 an hour which is "living Wage" ? Put your crack pipe down! Conservatives believe in investing in yourself so you can take better care of yourself and your family.

- "We believe that fast-food workers deserve a livable wage, and that means that when they take to the picket line, we are proud to fight alongside them." Well-, be sure to biggie size it because you might be out there a while

- "We believe that students are entitled to get an education without being crushed by debt." Entitlement is the problem, but you did admit you're a progressive so we'll give you a pass. Please try to explain what you mean another way.

- "We believe that after a lifetime of work, people are entitled to retire with dignity, and that means protecting Social Security, Medicare, and pensions." These are conservative values as well and because Democrats have robbed from these social programs over the years funding other progressive programs we couldn't afford, these people may not see these dollars they contributed in "pay if forward". You owe them an apology

- "We believe—I can't believe I have to say this in 2014—we believe in equal pay for equal work." Can you provide some quality examples of what you are talking about?

- "We believe that equal means equal, and that's true in marriage, it's true in the workplace, it's true in all of America." Man and woman married is 'marriage', the same as it ever was Ms Warren, what the hell are you talking about?

- "We believe that immigration has made this country strong and vibrant, and that means reform." Reform is a wonderful political term that doesn't mean Jack Crap to anyone paying attention.

Be specific in your 11 Commandments Ms Warren, because none of what you say is anything more than Rhetoric for your wonderful Millennial fan base

- "And we believe that corporations are not people, that women have a right to their bodies. We will overturn Hobby Lobby and we will fight for it. We will fight for it!" You're wasting everyone's time Ms Warren.

And the main tenet of conservatives' philosophy, according to Warren? "I got mine. The rest of you are on your own."
No, it's more like, "do you want help?, I can help you help yourself so you can help others one day"


This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 1:33 pm
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:30 pm to
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Who are you seeing as the "D" nominee?


I don't believe it will be a typical Northeast Liberal. They'll need someone without a liberal stink on them. More of a centrist-appearance (not that they'll actually be centrist). And I'd expect someone not from the Northeast. It's way too early to say definitively, so it could end up being Warren. But I view her as a liberal Bachmann. Portions of the base love her, but there's no broad appeal.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:32 pm to
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the808bass


Good breakdown. Thanks.

There is nothing a "D" can do to get me to vote for them, so I am not as up to speed on who their "up and coming" types are.
Posted by LongueCarabine
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Posted on 7/20/14 at 1:41 pm to
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I am not as up to speed on who their "up and coming" types are.


Well, if the Dems are capable of learning anything (yeah, I know, that's really Pollyannish of me) they should realize that "up and coming" doesn't necessarily mean smart and capable.

The current C-in-C is the case in point, if anyone has to wonder.

LC
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