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re: Tallahassee cop caught planting evidence on video
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:17 pm to IndianPower
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:17 pm to IndianPower
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We arent all bad. Makes me very sad. I am leaving this line of work soon as any dumba$$ can basically be an officer now. I recently had a close friend get into some legal issues because of corrupt law enforcement officers covering a political agenda. Makes me sick and solidified my exit.
That’s the problem. The good cops leave instead of exposing the corruption and those who abuse their power.
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:56 pm to LSUAngelHere1
When you do bring it up/out you may as well get ready for jail and/or harassment too.
Old school community policing is dead IMO
We used to take care of people but now there are so many militarized pieces to the puzzle and power hungry politicians that have agendas.
The old school work has gone the way of the dodo bird. Its not about people so much anymore. Its about agendas and revenue.
Look at the state of louisiana saying they cant get rid of inspection stickers/brake tags until they can fill the revenue gap. That should be all you need to know. Its a money grab. Its wrong! I have never written a citation for this shite. Its dumb and its robbery.
This is my opinion.
Old school community policing is dead IMO
We used to take care of people but now there are so many militarized pieces to the puzzle and power hungry politicians that have agendas.
The old school work has gone the way of the dodo bird. Its not about people so much anymore. Its about agendas and revenue.
Look at the state of louisiana saying they cant get rid of inspection stickers/brake tags until they can fill the revenue gap. That should be all you need to know. Its a money grab. Its wrong! I have never written a citation for this shite. Its dumb and its robbery.
This is my opinion.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:26 pm to 4cubbies
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Abolish it and create something effective.
Well I don't think any of us have a magic wand and frankly, I don't think anything "effective" is politically feasible. That's my point when I say no current route for truly addressing it.
It's like so many other things in today's politics. Anything that would actually be an improvement is completely impossible to pass.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:28 pm to Dex Morgan
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Tallahassee cop caught planting evidence on video
Was she? The article you link seems to indicate that the bottle of liquor actually was found in the vehicle. The article doesn't seem to ever suggest evidence was planted.
What are we saying is the "planting evidence" piece here?
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:38 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:You should read better.
Was she? The article you link seems to indicate that the bottle of liquor actually was found in the vehicle. The article doesn't seem to ever suggest evidence was planted.
She opened the bottle herself. Then, put it BACK in the car but told her fellow officers it was opened and might even be what he had in the EMPTY cup in his car.
Then, she LIED about it in her first testimony until they trapped her with her own body camera.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:39 pm to imjustafatkid
Oh my. Three pages and you're the only one that has chosen to defend her. She took an unopened bottle of vodka from his vehicle. She opened it and dumped the contents on the ground. She then placed it back in his vehicle and claimed it was evidence to charge him with DUI. That was on top of saying she smelled weed in the car. There was no weed and he was not drunk. She then lied in her testimony.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:52 pm to Wishing Well
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She opened the bottle herself. Then, put it BACK in the car but told her fellow officers it was opened and might even be what he had in the EMPTY cup in his car.
The author of the article does make this assumption, but I don't see that on the video.
Not sure why she poured it out. That part definitely makes no sense.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:53 pm to Dex Morgan
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Three pages and you're the only one that has chosen to defend her.
In reality, I didn't defend her at all.
Posted on 4/11/24 at 11:59 pm to imjustafatkid
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he author of the article does make this assumption, but I don't see that on the video.
It shows the officer cracking the seal. The narrator points it out as she does it. It's in the video first linked.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:05 am to David_DJS
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It shows the officer cracking the seal. The narrator points it out as she does it. It's in the video first linked.
Guess I'll have to watch again. Didn't seem very clear to me.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:06 am to imjustafatkid
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Guess I'll have to watch again. Didn't seem very clear to me.
It's not real clear but when you listen, you can hear it. And then they show the other officer's bodycam and it appears the one with the bottle is emptying some of it.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:07 am to imjustafatkid
quote:I can't speak to the link in this thread because frankly, I didn't watch it. Because I've already seen her body cam and yeah. She absolutely told her fellow officers it was an open container.
The author of the article does make this assumption, but I don't see that on the video.
Her excuse once confronted on the stand? That she didn't realize she broke the seal until seeing her body cam. Which is so flagrantly a lie that only a mother would believe it.
In any case. She doesn't even dispute telling the other officers it was open. Moreover, the charges they leveled against the man INCLUDED the "fact" he had an open container.
So yeah. She lied. She lied a bunch. And now, she want's us to believe she "didn't realize" she broke the seal on a brand new fricking bottle.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:09 am to imjustafatkid
quote:Oh. I forgot. She lied about this too. Claiming she thought it was policy that you couldn't take liquids into evidence.
Not sure why she poured it out. That part definitely makes no sense.
I mean.......come on.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:10 am to imjustafatkid
quote:It's clear enough that even the female cop admits that the seal was broken..................NOW she admits it.
Guess I'll have to watch again. Didn't seem very clear to me.
Here's the bottom line. She emptied that thing. She KNEW she broke the seal. She did NOT expect it to be so damned obvious on her body cam. So, she lied her arse off.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:15 am to i am dan
quote:Name another profession where you have the power to kill, imprison and fine another person.
Name one profession where everyone is perfect or hell, even decent
quote:See reasons above why them MUST be treated differently than other professions
Why would you expect LE to be different?
Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:02 am to Dex Morgan
LINK
I'm not going to go through and show how most in this thread are completely wrong regarding this arrest of a drunk driver.
Instead, I've attached a link that details the truth.
The guy was drunk AF, driving at 2:00 Am with NO headlights, swerving, speeding and driving erratic. He reeked of alcohol, and was driving on a suspended license.
He was GUILTY.
Everyone wants to bring up the "open container". There was no charge for open container.
So planting of evidence is moot.
I'm not going to go through and show how most in this thread are completely wrong regarding this arrest of a drunk driver.
Instead, I've attached a link that details the truth.
The guy was drunk AF, driving at 2:00 Am with NO headlights, swerving, speeding and driving erratic. He reeked of alcohol, and was driving on a suspended license.
He was GUILTY.
Everyone wants to bring up the "open container". There was no charge for open container.
So planting of evidence is moot.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:14 am to David_DJS
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And then they show the other officer's bodycam and it appears the one with the bottle is emptying some of it.
Oh I definitely saw her emptying it. I don't understand why she was doing that. Makes no sense.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:17 am to Lieutenant Dan
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The guy was drunk AF, driving at 2:00 Am with NO headlights, swerving, speeding and driving erratic. He reeked of alcohol, and was driving on a suspended license.
He was GUILTY.
Huh. Makes the whole thread seem pretty meaningless and her actions make more sense. Dude was actually driving dangerously so she was trying to find any reason she could to take him to jail. Also, the idea that the officer "planted evidence" completely falls apart if he wasn't charged with an open container.
Glad this guy was arrested.
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 6:20 am
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:25 am to Wishing Well
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She's not the problem. Bad cops aren't the problem. The culture of defending, covering up for or worse, supporting bad cop behavior is the problem.
Well...yes and no.
She IS the problem.
But the culture of excusing/supporting/covering up is what allos the problem to persist.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:44 am to Lieutenant Dan
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So planting of evidence is moot.
Planting evidence is never moot.
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He was GUILTY.
I have no problem charging him with whatever he was proven to be guilty of. I have a huge problem with sweetening the case with planted evidence.
The guy admitted to drinking (and speeding, and having a suspended license). There was no need for any other evidence.
I understand that that's what you mean by saying the planting evidence was moot, but the problem is that if they will plant evidence in a case that they don't even need to plant evidence in, they SURE will plant evidence in a case that they DON'T have any evidence for.
The bigger problem—and I'm not saying I know what to do about it or even if there is anything that can be done about it—is that too many things that can provide "probable cause" are able to be completely fabricated.
"I smell alcohol."
"The dog signaled."
"You failed your field sobriety test."
I'll never submit to a field sobriety test. All that does is allow the officer to claim that you failed it if they've already decided that you're drunk. I'll demand the breathalizer, or even better, a blood test.
Something that resembles actual verifiable evidence instead of a law enforcement Rorschach ink blot "test."
Finally, even if someone is guilty, law enforcement still has to prove it and they have to prove it according to the constitutional limits that exist.
Giving a wink, wink, nudge, nudge to a situation in which law enforcement colored outside the lines because "we all know the guy was guilty" is more fruit of the poisonous populist tree.
Because sometimes (I'm not saying in this particular case) the guy "everybody knows is guilty" is actually innocent.
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 6:48 am
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