Started By
Message

re: YouTube: More than 100,000 videos and over 17,000 channels removed

Posted on 9/3/19 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

Apparently you still don't understand what a "public forum" is and the difference between it and a "publisher".

Why shouldn't YouTube be allowed to enforce whatever terms of service they want to on the people who use their forum?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21998 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

Why shouldn't YouTube be allowed to enforce whatever terms of service they want to on the people who use their forum?


They can, but they will correctly and legally be treated like a publisher if they do so as opposed to an open forum. Several people have addressed this.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

classified as a platform and not a publisher?


There’s nothing in the law regarding this distinction. If you don’t want these companies censoring what you post on the internet on their websites which they created then don’t post on the internet on their websites which they created. Go stand in your front yard screaming “Melt cuck!!!” At the passing cars.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

They can, but they will correctly and legally be treated like a publisher if they do so as opposed to an open forum. Several people have addressed this.


Funny, they already do it and they are still considered a platform

I mean, you can consider it a publisher, you can also consider it a hot dog
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

Apparently this board still doesn't understand the First Amendment.


The first states that the government cannot silence you speech, etc?

Most people know this.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12125 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

There’s nothing in the law regarding this distinction.
Section 230 of Communications Decency Act, passed by Congress in 1996 as part of the 1996 Telecommunications Act, cosponsored by both Republicans and Democrats, and the following USSC decision in Reno vs the ACLU, says otherwise.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21998 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:42 pm to
There are a lot of lawyers who disagree, and the law has been posted here. As an open forum, they aren't and shouldn't be responsible if some jackleg posts the instructions for bombing a marathon with a pressure cooker and some other jackleg follows the instructions. The law protects them because they aren't providing or editing content. If they start to edit content then they're showing that they endorse the content they leave up, and it opens them up to all sorts of legal action.

What you or I consider them is immaterial. What the law considers them when they are inevitably sued might matter a great deal.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

Section 230 of Communications Decency Act, passed by Congress in 1996 as part of the 1996 Telecommunications Act, cosponsored by both Republicans and Democrats, and the following USSC decision in Reno vs the ACLU, says otherwise


Cite the provision that then fits into the publisher liability exclusion for websites. Do you really believe the gov can force websites to allow any shite to be posted and have no right to boot people or comments that they don’t want on a website??? There is absolutely no support in the law for this fantasy.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:53 pm to
Under your construction you can’t have a website or forum that’s yours. Basically once you’ve created it, it would belong to the public.
Posted by Hogbit
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2019
1441 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:54 pm to
Bye bye YouTube. It's been nice knowing you.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

idiots like you


quote:

sensored


Sure guy, sure.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

What you or I consider them is immaterial. What the law considers them when they are inevitably sued might matter a great deal.
They currently can't be sued in that regard because the law has already considered them a platform
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21998 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

They currently can't be sued in that regard because the law has already considered them a platform


And they have changed their behavior in a significant way, so that can and almost certainly will be reconsidered.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

And they have changed their behavior in a significant way, so that can and almost certainly will be reconsidered.




No it won’t, because that’s not the law. JFC.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

If they start to edit content then they're showing that they endorse the content they leave up,
which can easily be shored up by their terms of service

It's hilarious to think that some people believe forcing YouTube into either publishing hate speech or being labeled a publisher is going to somehow lessen their censorship
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 9:08 pm to
I’m going to sue TD because every time I go into the Q thread and make fun of qtards my posts get whacked and I get banned!!!!
Posted by Big Papa Satan
Hell
Member since Jun 2019
263 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 10:43 pm to
As well as Marsh vs. Alabama.

Big Tech should be sued into oblivion.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65588 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

Why shouldn't YouTube be allowed to enforce whatever terms of service


Over half the channels I subscribe to got deleted and do not violate the terms of service in any way.



This post was edited on 9/3/19 at 10:51 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

Over half the channels I subscribe to got deleted and do not violate the terms of service in any way.

Name 2
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27538 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

forcing YouTube into either publishing hate speech


There is no such thing as hate speech
first pageprev pagePage 2 of 4Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram