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re: Red Rising Book 6 (Light Bringer) Release Date 7/25 (LB Spoilers pg 2)
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:18 pm to 225rumpshaker
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:18 pm to 225rumpshaker
quote:
Victra
Do not fear for me. Instead, pity them.
I went to a book signing last week and Pierce said that was his favorite line of LB.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:51 pm to TTownTiger
SPOILERS (when can we stop posting that)
quote:Glad he found home in the end
Lysander killing Cassius was predictable
quote:Notice he did not us “au” between his names in his final words.
My name is Cassius Bellona, son of Tiberius, son of Julia, brother of Darrow, Morning knight of the solar republic, and my honor remains
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 8/9/23 at 9:55 pm to 225rumpshaker
SPOILERS
Absolutely. Baddies getting killed left and right in this one. I was fully expecting Atlas to make it to the last book, he was my favorite villain in the series until a lucky Lysander cheapshot took him out.
- Having Volsung Fa turn out to be basically just a paid actor was strange but humorous. And the fight between him and Darrow was incredible... the parallels to Game of Thrones (Mountain vs. Viper) had me on edge the whole fight.
- Diomedes is awesome, and I hope we finally see him fight in the last book.
- Hated to see Cassius go, especially THAT way, but we were bound to lose someone from the big three (Darrow, Cassius, Sevro) and he was the least painful one to lose.
- How strange to see some of the subplots wrapped up so abruptly, like Lyria's Figment ability, or Quicksilver's Oculus project. I highly doubt we see Quicksilver in the last book.
Overall I thought Lightbringer was good, better than Iron Gold but not as good as Dark Age. Looking forward to the finale... Lysander has cemented himself as the true villain, and I hope he meets a satisfying end, though I don't think Darrow survives either.
quote:
Victra killing Ajax was not on my bingo card going into the novel
Absolutely. Baddies getting killed left and right in this one. I was fully expecting Atlas to make it to the last book, he was my favorite villain in the series until a lucky Lysander cheapshot took him out.
- Having Volsung Fa turn out to be basically just a paid actor was strange but humorous. And the fight between him and Darrow was incredible... the parallels to Game of Thrones (Mountain vs. Viper) had me on edge the whole fight.
- Diomedes is awesome, and I hope we finally see him fight in the last book.
- Hated to see Cassius go, especially THAT way, but we were bound to lose someone from the big three (Darrow, Cassius, Sevro) and he was the least painful one to lose.
- How strange to see some of the subplots wrapped up so abruptly, like Lyria's Figment ability, or Quicksilver's Oculus project. I highly doubt we see Quicksilver in the last book.
Overall I thought Lightbringer was good, better than Iron Gold but not as good as Dark Age. Looking forward to the finale... Lysander has cemented himself as the true villain, and I hope he meets a satisfying end, though I don't think Darrow survives either.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:05 am to Esquire
Not reading this thread but need help.
Who knows of a decent recap of the last book? I can't remember much about it and want to touch up before Light Bringer
Who knows of a decent recap of the last book? I can't remember much about it and want to touch up before Light Bringer
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:05 pm to YumYum Sauce
Posted on 8/10/23 at 2:08 pm to TTownTiger
huge help but now im reading the 4th book recap as well 

Posted on 8/16/23 at 7:44 pm to Esquire
Oh snap ... had no idea!
I'm in!
I'm in!
Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:20 pm to TTownTiger
SPOILERS
I think both Quicksilver and Matteo knew the memory loss would be a non-starter for Darrow and Sevro. I believed Cassius would inherit the figment because he basically had no status, family, or friends left besides Darrow, but I guess the figment was just one of the things that Pierce decided to throw away when he was re-writing this book.
As for my thoughts - I loved this book so much. I thought it was awesome from beginning to end and the action included in it was excellently written. When the Big 3 emerged from the leviathan, the Battle of Phobos, when Darrow found his flow vs. Volsung, and when Lysander fought Rhone - all captivating as hell.
Biggest questions I have / can't wait to find out:
1. Who is Virginia's "contact" that Kavax alluded to? If it is the Abomination, it could explain how Sevro got free and if he's not under some mind control.
2. Will Atalantia learn that Lysander actually killed Atlas? Will Bellona's mom find out he also killed Cassius?
3. How will the psychospikes make a return?
4. This weapon that Lysander possesses, would it kill Pax since he's both red and gold?
5. Can't wait for the rematch of Darrow vs. Apollonious.
fricking great book IMO. It's in my top 3 of the series with Golden Son and Dark Age.
END SPOILERS
quote:
Question: Was it mentioned why the bug wasnt offered to Darrow, Sevro, Cassius when they arrived?
I think both Quicksilver and Matteo knew the memory loss would be a non-starter for Darrow and Sevro. I believed Cassius would inherit the figment because he basically had no status, family, or friends left besides Darrow, but I guess the figment was just one of the things that Pierce decided to throw away when he was re-writing this book.
As for my thoughts - I loved this book so much. I thought it was awesome from beginning to end and the action included in it was excellently written. When the Big 3 emerged from the leviathan, the Battle of Phobos, when Darrow found his flow vs. Volsung, and when Lysander fought Rhone - all captivating as hell.
Biggest questions I have / can't wait to find out:
1. Who is Virginia's "contact" that Kavax alluded to? If it is the Abomination, it could explain how Sevro got free and if he's not under some mind control.
2. Will Atalantia learn that Lysander actually killed Atlas? Will Bellona's mom find out he also killed Cassius?
3. How will the psychospikes make a return?
4. This weapon that Lysander possesses, would it kill Pax since he's both red and gold?
5. Can't wait for the rematch of Darrow vs. Apollonious.
fricking great book IMO. It's in my top 3 of the series with Golden Son and Dark Age.
END SPOILERS
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:23 pm to Bluefin
SPOILERS
quote:This is the only thing that adds up since Mustang made mention it would make him upset or some such.
1. Who is Virginia's "contact" that Kavax alluded to? If it is the Abomination, it could explain how Sevro got free and if he's not under some mind control.
quote:Not sure on Atalantia, but I’m willing to bet Cassius mom gets word of what happened to her son
2. Will Atalantia learn that Lysander actually killed Atlas? Will Bellona's mom find out he also killed Cassius?
quote:Curious if this is one of those things Brown just wrote off, but maybe they do?
3. How will the psychospikes make a return?
quote:Was curious if he unleashed on one color if it would just make him I’ll versus killing him like a cold or something since his DNA is different. Although I believe Darrows DNA was altered so maybe unleashing on gold would kill Pax.
4. This weapon that Lysander possesses, would it kill Pax since he's both red and gold?
quote:This, gonna be bloody damn great. Can’t wait for the Breath of Stone to be unleashed on Apples arse
5. Can't wait for the rematch of Darrow vs. Apollonious.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 9/7/23 at 9:31 am to 225rumpshaker
SPOILERS
Yeah, she basically said to imagine the worst possible person, and it's still worse than that.
You can also glean from Pierce's writing when certain characters are meant to have some sort of redemption, and I felt that towards the end about Cicero au Votum. For a second I thought maybe Cicero is helping Mustang because Atalantia nuked Mercury and his randomness during the Battle of Phobos basically threw their entire strategy off and gave the Republic an out - but he wouldn't fit Mustang's description of her contact.
Perhaps, similar to Diomedes, Cicero becomes a sympathetic character who realizes the Golds are just fodder for the ascent of people like Atalantia and Lysander.
quote:
This is the only thing that adds up since Mustang made mention it would make him upset or some such.
Yeah, she basically said to imagine the worst possible person, and it's still worse than that.
You can also glean from Pierce's writing when certain characters are meant to have some sort of redemption, and I felt that towards the end about Cicero au Votum. For a second I thought maybe Cicero is helping Mustang because Atalantia nuked Mercury and his randomness during the Battle of Phobos basically threw their entire strategy off and gave the Republic an out - but he wouldn't fit Mustang's description of her contact.
Perhaps, similar to Diomedes, Cicero becomes a sympathetic character who realizes the Golds are just fodder for the ascent of people like Atalantia and Lysander.
Posted on 9/10/23 at 10:44 pm to Bluefin
SPOILERS!!!
Cassius my Goodman,
I am afraid I am at such a loss, that I can hardly form a word to convey the weight of my grief. My reprieve is that the worlds had the distinct pleasure of having the morning knight as a beacon into the frontier of this new ephemeral democratic republic that we have accidentally created my brother. House Mars after all. How bout that.
I’m drinking american bourbon on earth at this moment. Oh how my heart aches in my solitary grief. What is honor, what is conscience, without our Cassius. I am lost. I yet not know how but I will avenge thee Cassius .
Spoilers.
Cassius my Goodman,
I am afraid I am at such a loss, that I can hardly form a word to convey the weight of my grief. My reprieve is that the worlds had the distinct pleasure of having the morning knight as a beacon into the frontier of this new ephemeral democratic republic that we have accidentally created my brother. House Mars after all. How bout that.
I’m drinking american bourbon on earth at this moment. Oh how my heart aches in my solitary grief. What is honor, what is conscience, without our Cassius. I am lost. I yet not know how but I will avenge thee Cassius .
Spoilers.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 8:21 am to TTownTiger
quote:
Was it mentioned why the bug wasnt offered to Darrow, Sevro, Cassius when they arrived?
It's pretty clear PB was criticizing the idea that a bug like that should never exist in the first place.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:30 pm to GenesChin
I also read into it that that vast power was offered to someone so “weak” and not to the all powerful and she was “strong enough” to turn it down.
People with power very rarely turn down opportunities to get/take more.
People with power very rarely turn down opportunities to get/take more.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 10:18 am to Laugh More
quote:
People with power very rarely turn down opportunities to get/take more.
frick Lysander
Posted on 9/17/23 at 5:36 pm to Esquire
Upon second read/listen through, just came across another detail around power.
When given the chance to sell their souls for ultimate power, Lysander and Lyria chose differently. When presented the idea from Atlas, Lysander even remarks that he would need to sell his soul. Lyria did not want to lose her memories/who she is as a person/soul.
So when given the opportunity of greater power, the powerful Lysander chose more power and the weaker Lyria chose to give up/remove that power.
Perhaps reading into it too far, but a potentially interesting philosophical debate regardless.
When given the chance to sell their souls for ultimate power, Lysander and Lyria chose differently. When presented the idea from Atlas, Lysander even remarks that he would need to sell his soul. Lyria did not want to lose her memories/who she is as a person/soul.
So when given the opportunity of greater power, the powerful Lysander chose more power and the weaker Lyria chose to give up/remove that power.
Perhaps reading into it too far, but a potentially interesting philosophical debate regardless.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 6:14 am to Laugh More
I am just determined that Pax is the answer to all the problems. I think he defeats Lysander in a different way that we all expect.
IDK y but I've changed my opinion on Darrow's death. I don't think he dies anymore, can't give you a good reason y i have changed my opinion.
IDK y but I've changed my opinion on Darrow's death. I don't think he dies anymore, can't give you a good reason y i have changed my opinion.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:14 pm to bayoumuscle21
quote:
am just determined that Pax is the answer to all the problems. I think he defeats Lysander in a different way that we all expect.
He is going through some kind of super training with the Blues isn’t he? Someway, somehow I’m sure that skill set will come into play.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:08 pm to theGarnetWay
quote:They have made his piloting / engineering / mechanical / political mind etc all above someone for his age.
He is going through some kind of super training with the Blues isn’t he? Someway, somehow I’m sure that skill set will come into play.
It’s almost like he is the best of all of the colors made up in one person, so I can see him being of great importance in the next book.
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