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Wokeness with modern authors sucks
Posted on 6/4/24 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 6/4/24 at 12:42 pm
I'm really getting frustrated with authors I've been reading a long time becoming more and more woke. Maybe the liberals lap that shite up?
Stephen King's Holly was so full of Covid and TDS it was very difficult to finish. His latest, You Like it Darker was a little better but still annoying. You're a worldbuilder. Would it be that difficult to have your fictional US not have Covid? Tired of hearing about masks and bumping elbows.
David Baldacci's newest book A Calamity of Souls is so heavy handed with the racial theme it became off-putting. Most all of the white people (except for our protagonist) were evil and spoke as if they were at a Klan rally although Baldacci didn't have the balls to use the N word. I had to put it down. Thankfully, his next one is back to his normal subject matter. I'm now a few chapters into Southern Man by Greg Iles. While most of his Penn Cage series relies on racism to push the plot, it's ratcheted up in this one. Sprinkle in some obvious TDS and it's quickly becoming a burden to read. If I hadn't know these characters for 6 previous books, I'd be tempted to put this one down as well. Am I just unlucky or is this becoming more common and widespread?
Stephen King's Holly was so full of Covid and TDS it was very difficult to finish. His latest, You Like it Darker was a little better but still annoying. You're a worldbuilder. Would it be that difficult to have your fictional US not have Covid? Tired of hearing about masks and bumping elbows.
David Baldacci's newest book A Calamity of Souls is so heavy handed with the racial theme it became off-putting. Most all of the white people (except for our protagonist) were evil and spoke as if they were at a Klan rally although Baldacci didn't have the balls to use the N word. I had to put it down. Thankfully, his next one is back to his normal subject matter. I'm now a few chapters into Southern Man by Greg Iles. While most of his Penn Cage series relies on racism to push the plot, it's ratcheted up in this one. Sprinkle in some obvious TDS and it's quickly becoming a burden to read. If I hadn't know these characters for 6 previous books, I'd be tempted to put this one down as well. Am I just unlucky or is this becoming more common and widespread?
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 12:48 pm to Christopher Columbo
If authors really wanted to capture a devastating, ongoing, pandemic of global proportions, they would write a book about all the people that see "wokeness" in everything.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 2:31 pm to Christopher Columbo
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I had to put it down.
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Thankfully, his next one is back to his normal subject matter.
I see the problem here.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:23 pm to Christopher Columbo
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David Baldacci's newest book
You think that maybe, just maybe, with the amount of books this guy puts out that they probably aren't going to be quality books. I've never read a single book of his so I'm not the best judge but I don't ever plan on reading a book from someone that writes that much. The quality just cannot be there.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:21 pm to Christopher Columbo
I've quit David Baldacci, Steve Berry, and might quit Daniel Silva because the TDS (or in Baldacci's case BDS). I understand most authors are liberal and I can deal with that unless they just really go over the top.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:46 pm to Christopher Columbo
The Red Mars trilogy from Kim Stanley Robinson is awesome. Yes, there are some hints of leftism in the story, but they are minor and the sci-fi is just fantastic. Those books absolutely deserved all the Hugo and Nebula awards that they won.
When 2312 came out a few years ago, I still liked it, even though the climate stuff was more heavy-handed, with New York City submerged to the 2nd story of the skyscrapers.
When Aurora came out after that, it was a horrible read. Robinson has basically turned his back on science fiction. His climate activism led him to write a book saying that humans can't colonize other systems, because we need earth, so we have to take care of it (that's not a spoiler, because I'm not spoiling anything, because you can't spoil trash).
I obviously haven't read anything Robinson has written since Aurora. It's sad to see a truly great author write trash because he completely subjugated his art to his political and cultural views.
When 2312 came out a few years ago, I still liked it, even though the climate stuff was more heavy-handed, with New York City submerged to the 2nd story of the skyscrapers.
When Aurora came out after that, it was a horrible read. Robinson has basically turned his back on science fiction. His climate activism led him to write a book saying that humans can't colonize other systems, because we need earth, so we have to take care of it (that's not a spoiler, because I'm not spoiling anything, because you can't spoil trash).
I obviously haven't read anything Robinson has written since Aurora. It's sad to see a truly great author write trash because he completely subjugated his art to his political and cultural views.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:37 am to Christopher Columbo
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becoming more common and widespread?
Probably, but it's not really anything new. I gave up on James Lee Burke at least 30 years ago. Largely because he was just recycling the same thing, but also because he increasingly injected his politics. It's more forgivable when the writing is good. I gave up on the Kay Scarpetta series (Patricia Cornwell) about the same time, for exactly the same reason. Greg Iles - I've only read Natchez Burning which was a cliche festival and the last time I'll read him.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:14 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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If authors really wanted to capture a devastating, ongoing, pandemic of global proportions, they would write a book about all the people that see "wokeness" in everything.
Tranny says what?
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:30 am to Adajax
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Daniel Silva
Surprising he’d be so liberal. I assumed he was an Israel supporter based on his books.
Posted on 6/8/24 at 10:33 am to iwyLSUiwy
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You think that maybe, just maybe, with the amount of books this guy puts out that they probably aren't going to be quality books
You think maybe, just maybe, in the political climate since Trump that more left leaning authors aren't going to insert woke shite in a story or two?
I mean, is that such a crazy notion?
Posted on 6/8/24 at 10:34 am to Green Chili Tiger
quote:South Park did that.
If authors really wanted to capture a devastating, ongoing, pandemic of global proportions, they would write a book about all the people that see "wokeness" in everything.
But they made fun of your side, too. . .
Posted on 6/11/24 at 5:17 pm to Christopher Columbo
Years ago I discovered an incredibly talented writer named Christopher Moore. I just tore through his books. Then, like so many, after Dubya’s re-election he just went off the rails. It got to the point where I couldn’t even stand to see his name. Same for Stephen King and several others. I just avoid them like the plague now.
Posted on 6/12/24 at 1:01 pm to GOP_Tiger
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When 2312 came out a few years ago, I still liked it, even though the climate stuff was more heavy-handed, with New York City submerged to the 2nd story of the skyscrapers.
Even if you don't buy into that it's a good setting for a disaster novel. The Day After Tomorrow was entertaining in spite of the comically bad science.
Posted on 6/14/24 at 6:25 pm to Christopher Columbo
King, Baldacci and Iles have been leftwing for almost as long as they've been on the radar. Lee Child and Michael Connelly are similar.
This post was edited on 6/14/24 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:44 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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You think that maybe, just maybe, with the amount of books this guy puts out that they probably aren't going to be quality books.
He is a pretty good author but his stories do become very formulaic after awhile.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 5:28 pm to Jake88
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King, Baldacci and Iles have been leftwing for almost as long as they've been on the radar. Lee Child and Michael Connelly are similar.
I actually read all of those guys and you're right. It's just more in your face and taunting with the first three here lately.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 7:04 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Even if you don't buy into that it's a good setting for a disaster novel. The Day After Tomorrow was entertaining in spite of the comically bad science.
I didn't mind the idea of NYC submerged to the 2nd story of the skyscrapers. I minded the edge of preaching in the novel that went along with it. But 2312 is still a good novel, though not at the level of Robinson's Red Mars trilogy. But the preaching in Aurora is at another level, and he oriented the entire plot around his desire to preach about climate change.
That's simply disrespectful to the reader. If I wanted to read left-wing crap theology, I could buy those kinds of books.
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:34 am to Christopher Columbo
The worst example of wokeness I have heard, and which still boils my blood, is John Grisham taking a TRUE black-on-white rape/murder case and writing a Time to Kill, which REVERSES the races and stokes hatred towards white people.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:16 pm to Christopher Columbo
I read one recently about the Yamamoto mission. The mission commander was John Mitchell, from Mississippi. The author, a journalism professor at Boston College stated Mitchell's grandfather "joined the Confederate Army to fight for slavery".
He also made several other references to Mitchell's apparently inherant racism.
He also made several other references to Mitchell's apparently inherant racism.
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