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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/5/22 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

I love that this dude quoted a post asking why he deflects to other countries when asked why won't he condemn Russia, and replied by deflecting to other countries so as not to condemn Russia... then when called out on deflecting from Russia to talk about other countries, he replies by deflecting from Russia to talk about other countries.


He does have a way with words.

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25852 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 4:58 pm to
It would help if you didn't use pronouns without a clear antecedent.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11825 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 5:02 pm to
I seems the current Ukrainian tactics is prone with fast, highly Mobil units on enemy lines. This will elicit an artillery response and a UKrainian counter batter response. It also let Ukraine know where the enemy is strong and weak.

Once the weak points are marked, the follow up with a lightning, fast mobile breakthrough and push dead behind lines, bypassing villages with Russian defenders.

Russia doesn’t have enough troops to fully man a static line and are concentrated at villages and fortified positions. Fast units avoid the artillery response due to being in and out before Russia and radio coordinates
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6873 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 5:04 pm to
Pretty good assessment, I would agree with you.

Ukraine also has MUCH better intelligence gathering and coordination than Russia...Thanks to the US.

I just read a twitter post today discussing the advantage Ukraine has over Russia in this area... I'll see if I can stumble across it again.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6873 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 5:06 pm to
The cracks are starting to show around Putin.

Video in link
https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1577778132173594631
quote:

Interestingly, earlier today in Moscow police detained an employee of Prigozhin's media group Patriot Aleksey Slobodenyuk who runs a network of telegram channels known for attacking Shoigu, Volodin and others. So a hot war among Russia's elite is very much a reality at this point


I believe Prigozhin is the head of the Wagner Group who was very recently (within the last week) using Telegram to criticize the Russian Military Leadership over their failures.
Posted by ridlejs
Member since Aug 2011
398 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 5:10 pm to
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The cracks are starting to show around Putin.


Do we really want a war between these factions? Just seems like you’d be replacing Putin with folks that even more hardline.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3155 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 5:14 pm to
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I really wish Chicken would kick these Russian users off of TD


So speech/thought should only be allowed if you approve of it?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36442 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 5:33 pm to
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Do we really want a war between these factions? Just seems like you’d be replacing Putin with folks that even more hardline.




Disagree. This is just personal opinion, but Putin is a once in a century type of leader with a combination of ruthlessness, ideology, ego, to hold on to power as he has. The others are apparatchiks who don't have that (awful) vision.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6873 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 5:35 pm to
TigerAddict, this is that post I mentioned.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1577769972515934208
quote:

Interesting opinion by Russian reporter Kotenok on Ukrainians implementing Western intelligence which uses located signals of Russian forces and equipment to create online interactive maps.

This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 5:36 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35471 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 5:36 pm to
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So speech/thought should only be allowed if you approve of it?
They aren't trying to discuss anything. They are just trying to derail the thread.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3724 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Russia has been taking up most of central Africa for years

And no one has batted a single eye


Wait...are you saying we should be upset that Wagner is in the CAR. I mean ok, but I'm sure if Russia was trying to make the CAR part of Russia by force we would care. Economic pressures and military assistance to promote influence are just the standard tactic de jour.

If Russia was trying to claim Bangui as a Russian city and they all needed to operate in the Russian system and that the CAR wasn't a real country and held fake referendums to make it part of Russia then you could use it as an example but it falls way short of your whataboutism here.
Posted by jefffan
Florence- Sumter- Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2013
4971 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 5:53 pm to
Wow at the level of tech that is now employed on battlefields. Can any former military confirm( or not) that this was also used in the M.E. as well or is this new?

We are basically using this as a tech Expo and it is largely working to perfection.

Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 5:56 pm to
@nexta_tv

Russian Federation honors Kadyrov at live ceremony because of the record breaking number of sanction levied against him.


The hobbit is wearing platform boots so that he pushes 4'8.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6873 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 5:58 pm to
So here's a strange twist that may tie two of my posts from today together

Post 1) The 500 abandoned Russians
Post 2) The arrest of one of the Wagner bosses friends

https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1577758999319089156
quote:

The video was posted on and being reposted by pro-Wagner channels, which matches Prigozhin's "Fire Shojgu" narrative (https://t.me/rsotmdivision/1596). Also some Wagner patches are visible on it. Nearly all "poor mobiks" on the video wear balaclavas



Did the Wagner boss stage the video of the abandoned soldiers and use the video on social media to hurt the Russian Military Leadership?

Video in link
https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1577767405157289998
quote:

Here's Rybar's video with the Wagner patches filmed at the same location https://t.me/rybar/39798
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 6:03 pm
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6873 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 6:00 pm to
I suspect the US has utilized consolidated intelligence feeds, AI, comprehensive electronic mapping, etc...for years now.
Posted by Realityintheface
Member since May 2022
1784 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

Just seems like you’d be replacing Putin with folks that even more hardline.


Or not.
Posted by Realityintheface
Member since May 2022
1784 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 6:03 pm to
Beware of tiny men. All trying to compensate for their lack of height by being assholes. Fact.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49025 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 6:04 pm to
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seems the current Ukrainian tactics is prone with fast, highly Mobil units on enemy lines. This will elicit an artillery response and a UKrainian counter batter response. It also let Ukraine know where the enemy is strong and weak.

Once the weak points are marked, the follow up with a lightning, fast mobile breakthrough and push dead behind lines, bypassing villages with Russian defenders.


Welcome to 1940
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 6:08 pm to
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Welcome to 1940


Yet more proof that Russia is a poverty franchise that can’t figure out war 80 years later.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9635 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 6:10 pm to
Kadyrov is 5'6" just like Putin
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