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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/7/24 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 5:31 pm to
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The war is also a genuine civil war, which I realize is not a correct thought, but you can see that in the refugee flow. There are more than 5 million Ukrainians in Russia. They could have gone anywhere, they chose Russia.


TIL that Mexico is just part of the US and they don't know it. Guess we should denazify Mexico!
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98324 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:00 pm to
I wouldn't surprise me at all if Ukraine finds a way to take it to North Korea and Iran.

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Ukrainian special forces are conducting operations against Russian mercenaries in Africa, security sources have confirmed to The National.

It is understood that specialist operators have flown from Kyiv for secret missions in Sudan that have ended in the deaths of soldiers from the Wagner Group.

A video released by the Kyiv Post, sourced from Ukraine military intelligence, shows a captured Russian prisoner being interrogated alongside two African soldiers.

All three are dressed in only their combat trousers with their hands bound, blindfolded and kneeling in a shallow trench while being questioned by an alleged Ukrainian in combat fatigues in a voice that is disguised

Around them are dead bodies and equipment of other mercenaries somewhere in the bush in Sudan.

A mercenary states in Russian that he is from “PMC [private military company] Wagner” and arrived in Sudan with 100 other fighters from the Central African Republic with a mission to “to overthrow the local government”.

The two fighters say they were paid $1,000 each for the operation.

The video also shows alleged Ukrainians in combat fatigues using night vision goggles carrying specialist assault rifles and a soldier with the blue and gold Ukraine insignia on his shoulder.



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Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23276 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:38 pm to
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Taking it out on Ukraine isn't those other countries suffering for their decision to join nato


Is this English?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2585 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:49 pm to
Ukraine's maritime exports reached pre-war level in January

Thanks to the functioning of the Ukrainian sea corridor, the volume of the country's sea exports returned to pre-war levels in January.

Source: Denys Shmyhal, Ukraine’s Prime Minister, during a government meeting

Quote: "The Ukrainian maritime logistics corridor has been operational for six months. Six months ago, we lifted the Black Sea blockade and increased Ukrainian maritime trade," the head of government said.

Details: In addition, a project on export insurance against military risks, specifically the insurance of ships entering Ukrainian ports, could be launched at the same time.

"More than 660 ships have already passed through the new grain corridor, carrying approximately 20 million tonnes of cargo to 32 countries around the world. 70% of these cargoes contain agricultural products from our agricultural producers," Shmyhal emphasises.

In January, Ukraine resumed pre-war sea export volumes, and total exports are already approaching the pre-war levels.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:33 pm to
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My ultimate top line reason, the neocons are evil, and they are impoverishing and destroying this country. I want them to lose, and I want to see them run out of this country.



Lol. You aren't going to run anyone out of anywhere.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17968 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:07 pm to
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Lol. You aren't going to run anyone out of anywhere.



It's always about the hatred, the dictatorial desire. People like him despise their fellow Americans with such a passion that they are happy to support murderous dictators if they think that helps them oppose the Americans that they dislike.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145253 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:48 pm to
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The war is on us, or the neocons at least, we pushed NATO eastwards, and tried to turn Russia's neighbours on her.
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The war is also a genuine civil war
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Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5764 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:33 am to
They really do brainwash y’all, don’t they? It’s actually really amazing how so many people can be forced into sheep like this.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 9:17 am
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:36 am to
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The war is also a genuine civil war, which I realize is not a correct thought,


This is not a civil war. It is a war between two sovereign nations.

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but you can see that in the refugee flow. There are more than 5 million Ukrainians in Russia. They could have gone anywhere, they chose Russia.


How many lived in Russia before the war? How many are children taken against their will? How many lived in places like Mariupol or the occupied parts of Ukraine where the only choice the people had was flee to Russia or stay and live in rubble? I know a woman from Mariupol whose husband died fighting the Russians. She hates Russia with a passion but she moved herself and her kids to Rostov on Don because her kids were starving. She can’t leave the country because the Russians took their Ukrainian passports and the Russian passports they were given identity then as Ukrainians. When they tried to flee to Kazakstan last year they were pulled off the bus taken by police to the nearest bus station and sent back to Rostov on Don.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 12:47 am
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:58 am to
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Question. Why do you want Russia to overrun a sovereign country? Does it please you? Russia claims it’s fighting Nazis but they sure are doing some Nazi shite just rolling into other countries and claiming them as theirs. My ultimate top line reason, the neocons are evil, and they are impoverishing and destroying this country. I want them to lose, and I want to see them run out of this country.


So you hate neocons are impoverishing the USA. However, you support Putin who has made himself one of the world’s richest men by stealing from the Russian people for 20+ years. Geez how much brain damage did you suffer in the military or are you just a FSB agent pretending to be a US veteran? Because you either have to have a lot of brain damage or be a foreign agent to not see the irony and stupidity of your positions.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 1:13 am
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:10 am to
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Voluntarily There were 1.6 million Ukrainians in Russia before the fighting began in 2014, of which two thirds were economic migrants. That figure climbed to 3.2 million by 2020, bolstered by refugees. I spoke with one person who had family in Odessa, he said they sold everything they had, and moved to Russia. This was before the war started in 22.


How many have moved voluntarily since the invasion in 2022?
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
1505 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:37 am to
Meanwhile, on Tuesday night 1300km from the UKR border...
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The Votkinsk Machine Building Plant, situated in Votkinsk, had been manufacturing nuclear-capable Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles for decades
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The MoD of the Russian Federation has officially announced that the cause of the explosion in Izhevsk is attributed to "technical work at the Votkin Machine-Building Plant." This facility is responsible for the production of ICBMs as well as launch complexes.

Damn, that's a big technical work.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82177 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:39 am to
Hillary Clinton shares your opinion of the Tucker / Putin interview. So does Joe Biden.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 1:40 am
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:46 am to
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Hillary Clinton shares your opinion of the Tucker / Putin interview


Kim Jong Un and the Iranians who chant “Death to America” share your opinions. I dislike Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton almost as much as I dislike Bama fans, but I would rather be on HRC’s and FJB’s side than Iran’s.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
1505 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 1:56 am to
"President Putin, how much of a burden has it been to you morally that Ukrainian residential buildings keep getting in the way of your peace missiles?"

Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
1245 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:25 am to
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Actually they went in with about 20-30 thousand. They ratcheted up from there. They have at least 500 million men committed to the Ukraine war now.


500 million men?

You have a link to that figure?
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
1245 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:28 am to
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so you're looking at a supply line that truly does start in the US, or in Western Europe, and once it gets in the country, it's not necessarily easy to get to the front. I think it was in Bahkmut that someone came up with the term "mosquito logistics" to describe the way the Ukrainians were using civilian vehicles to cover that final mile to the front. You do what you have to, but it's not efficient and it shows you how hard things are for them.


Maybe that’s why so much weaponry given to them winds up on the black market, it’s easier to sell it than transport it that final one mile.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2585 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 5:17 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 08 February 2024

Avdiivka remains a primary focus of Russian operations. Russia continues attacks in the south-eastern city limits, with urban street-to-street combat taking place. Over the past two weeks, Russian forces have likely rotated in additional forces to the Avdiivka sector, increasing the pressure on Ukrainian positions around the city. Ukraine continues to conduct counterattacks to ensure the main supply route remains in use.

Over the past four weeks, approximately 600 guided munitions have been launched against Ukrainian positions in Avdiivka from tactical aircraft. Russian sorties increased guided aerial munitions strikes from 30 to 50 per day on 5 February 2024, an increase of 66 per cent over the last two weeks. However, Russian fighters are forced to launch munitions at range, degrading their accuracy due to the continued threat of Ukrainian air defence.

Russia is almost certain to continue offensive pressure in this area over the next several weeks, heavily leveraging tactical air power to support its effort.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2585 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 5:20 am to
Commander: Ukraine downs Russian Ka-52 attack helicopter near Avdiivka

by Dinara Khalilova and The Kyiv Independent news desk February 8, 2024 1:14 PM

Ukrainian forces shot down a Russian Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopter near Avdiivka in Donetsk Oblast on Feb. 7, Oleksandr Tarnavskyi, the commander of Ukraine's Tavria group fighting on the southeastern front lines, said on Feb. 8.

"The enemy's Alligator with its crew was hit by a portable anti-aircraft missile complex and fertilized the soil in the Avdiivka direction," Tarnavskyi said on Telegram.

The Ka-52 Alligator is an updated twin-seat variant of Russia's Ka-50 attack helicopter designed to destroy enemy armored and unarmored ground targets, tanks, low-speed aerial targets, and personnel, according to the Airforce Technology website.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 5:52 am to
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Maybe that’s why so much weaponry given to them winds up on the black market


Yeah those Bradley’s and M1A1s are going pretty cheap on FB marketplace.

ETA: I just got a hell of a deal on 5,000 155 mm shells on Ebay. The deal was so good that you could almost call it a steal.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 6:21 am
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