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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/29/23 at 9:01 am to ned nederlander
Posted on 6/29/23 at 9:01 am to ned nederlander
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This list puts in perspective how comparatively little Ukraine has gotten. What has Ukraine gotten.
~30 abrams
~0 jets
~40 HIMARS
~0 helicopters
What about the tube artillery, millions of rounds of tube artillery ammunition;
113s, Brads, Strykers;
All manner of radars to include Patriot systems;
Small arms, probably over a billion rounds in small arms ammunition;
Javelins, AT4s;
Anti air missiles;
Ground to ground missiles and rockets;
Anti ship missiles;
Etc etc etc
Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:06 pm to Lakeboy7
We have given more than every other country combined but I guess that’s to be expected. I’m not sure sending 100 more Abrams would really make a difference until Ukraine can neutralize Russia’s threat from the air. That means either more AA systems or fighters. AA systems are at a premium as there just isn’t that many Patriot systems sitting around extra to send. If fighters are going to be in the plan then they need to shite or get off the pot with it because that takes time to train and equip the Ukrainian Air Force. They will need at least 60 f-16s to make the difference they need along with all the support that those aircraft require as well as supplying them with thousands of missiles to shoot down the air threats. I don’t know which way NATO plans on going and I’m not sure they even know themselves but until the air threat is dealt with to me it’s pointless to keep sending armored vehicles to be used in combined arms operations without control of the sky. Our military would never attack if we didn’t first control the air but for some reason they expect the Ukrainians to figure it out the best they can. I fear this is going to be a slow going slugfest that goes on and on and on until that air threat is neutralized.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:12 pm to Lakeboy7
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What about the tube artillery, millions of rounds of tube artillery ammunition; 113s, Brads, Strykers; All manner of radars to include Patriot systems; Small arms, probably over a billion rounds in small arms ammunition; Javelins, AT4s; Anti air missiles; Ground to ground missiles and rockets; Anti ship missiles; Etc etc etc
No question we’ve given a tremendous amount. This isn’t a we should be doing more sentiment. Just as I read the list of what Poland is getting just in this one order I can’t help but feel Ukraine is fighting this war with duct tape and a collection of mismatched surplus (and largely obsolete) nato equipment
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